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Combat Confidential #030 - Senan Coakley You're In Here With Me In this special edition of Combat Confidential, guest host Dave Farrell sit down with the top young rising Irish MMA star Senan Coakly, shares how he bounced back from early career losses to become the IMMAF…

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It was hard to leave family, but I knew I just knew that was the place for me. Some fell just walked up to me in the gym and just like sizing me up and I was like, "What's what's this going on doing?" Like, you know what I mean? I'm not getting punches in the face for nothing. I'm getting punches in the face to be a millionaire now. To anyone out there that I am going to fight, you're going to be locked in the cage with me. I'm not going to be locked in there with you. But God bless you and save you. [Music] >> Okay. So, I'm here with Mr. sending Kotic who's just back for Dubai for a short holiday back in Ireland as well. So, um he's an amateur. I watched from the very start. I watched his very first fight at uh Vertus which he fought it was Conor Norton, wasn't it? Conan. Uh fantastic fight. Um how are you? How you're back for a short time. You've been in the Dubai at the minute. What's uh what's it like being home for a short period? >> Good. Yeah, it's good to see family and you know it's been it's been a long while. It's been a long uh I I wouldn't say slogan out in the bike because I've loved every minute of it, but it's been it's been a good bit of graft out there. You know, I worked on a lot of stuff in me own game. I worked on a lot of stuff in me life. I worked on setting up me future, setting up a lot of stuff out there and and and that's what I accomplished. And then I I booked me flight home telling me mom was delighted to see that I'm I'm coming home and now I'm here just for two weeks just stop over see everyone that means the most to me and then uh go back then and go back and put the work in you know. >> Yeah and talk to us about Dubai because we we've spoken online this the first time I've sat down with you but you said over here not that there's distractions but over there your sole focus is just getting better. Have you seen the level ups in yourself due to moving out there and kind of not isolating yourself but just putting yourself in that zone? >> Yeah. Yeah. Like cuz the sole purpose and the sole reason I'm in Dubai is to train, is to get better, is to level up, is to improve myself. So if that's your sole purpose while I'm over there that's all I'm doing every day training coming home from training thinking about training writing notes on training then going back to training then I'm then the work I'm doing is I'm coaching my Thai classes and I'm obviously ptinging people so then I'm reflecting on the training because I'm teaching my clients what I've just been learning in that training session but everything is just all about what I've been doing how I'm leveling up my career how I'm leveling up my you know let's say my training and and my MMA career, which is what I love the most about over there. And as well as that, you're so locked in. It's such a healthy lifestyle over there, you know, like it's it's sunny 247. Obviously, it gets hot in the summer now, lad. It's about 55 degrees over there and I can't even hack that. Like, but obviously majority of the time it's nice weather. You know, you're coming out training, you're in a good gym or you're going home, you know, you're going to bed in a good gym or you're going around, you can do what you want over there and you can live a good, you know, healthy lifestyle. So that that was my favorite thing about it and I just felt like uh cuz my sole purpose was to go over there and improve on it. That's all I done like and and in that year I feel like I've come on leaps and bounds like >> Yeah. You seen like you've been in different disciplines. You fought in different disciplines over there like your first boxing like like literally like literally it was so funny how them how them fights they came about. That's why I'm laughing. Like it was I was over there I tell you. So I fought I had a a K a pro K1 fight over there, right? Yeah. >> And uh some fella just walked up to me in the gym and just start like like sizing me up and I was like what's what's this doing? Like you know what I mean? And he was like what weight are you? And I was like about 85 kilos. Like now I'm not 85 now and I'm a bit heavier than 85 but at the time I was a good 85. He started like sizing me up and he's like what weight? I was like 85 kilo. And he was like, "You want to fight on Saturday?" I turned around, looked at him, I go, "It's fight you." Like, "You looking for a knock on me?" Like, and he's like, he was like, "I have an opponent there h only have one or two pro fights from usbekistan. Do you want to fight and all?" But obviously John and Maner was talking to him to see what like what was the correct like what like what it's about, what shows it on. Once John and Maner gave me the all clear, I was like, "Yeah, lovely. Went to this fight." Turns out afterwards he was like number one ranked in the UAE, number two ranked in Usbekistan, won the IFMAS which is like the the world IMAS but for my tie. I I just seen his his Instagram page afterwards like a sound boy. Yeah, put me up to the sharks dirty war. Anyways, he went out and got the second round stoppage. So, you know, I'm up for any challenge like no matter what this winner is. But like that just shows the opportunities that I had out there. Like that was that fight. Then the boxing fight was the same. It was just like uh Aaron Bicker staff like he runs a really high level boxing event over there and like that he just reached out and he's like does he want to fight boxing? I was like yeah I'll fight on like let's go. So that's how I ended up just taking like a boxing fight, a K1 fight, MMA fight and a Mai fight all in the space of like four or five months. I was like boom boom one after the other just taking them you know why not? And then I was just like falling in love with fighting in different disciplines and like you do that full time, I'll come up and you up in boxing. You do my tie full time, I'll come and you up and my like there was just it was just good crack out there. Me and John are having to laugh. Like we're like honestly honestly if you if you seen me and John Mitchell on fight week, you'd actually be scared like you'd be like how are these like we're just going around like it's another week you know going around having the crack having the laugh and then we're going in killing some poor gun on a Saturday night and then just going home and that's that. Like you know what I mean? So, it's a real it's a real good community we have over there, you know, of us Irish. Even Paul as well, Paul Bley, like we're all we all live in the same building. Me, John, Paul, D, all the boys, we all live in the one building, lad. We're always with each other as well. It's gas like us blowing around out there. But you can see how much we we level up from it, you know what I mean? We all bounce off each other h in train and then we come home, then we're talking about training, talking about life, you know? So, it's a real real good click we have over there now. like you know it was hard to leave family but I knew I just knew that was the place for me. It was a real it it was a it was a mad moment to be honest cuz I remember I went over there for four weeks uh for a training camp. John just said come over for four weeks. It was after I lost that tour fight then was it was it Brian Mannon? Yeah. So I lost that Brian Mannon fight. That was me to loss on the bounce. So obviously I was I was very like upset with it. You know what I mean? Upset with myself. had need to had a real think and you know I'm not I'm not not one to say the grass is greener but it was more so just like a think of like what am I doing wrong with me training and how do I improve me training and what do I do and when I went on the holiday over there I realized when I was over there like my whole my sole purpose of being here is just to train nothing else I have no distractions I don't have to go to this event social event here I don't have this these people here saying oh we have this events and this events I don't at work that I was doing at home distracted me. I was just fully focused on fighting and training. Then I came home and then I got like distracted again. I had like events. I was going on holidays. I had this and I said, "You know what?" I goes, "I'm just going over there and I'm just going to see what happens. I'm booking that oneway flight." I told me mom, funny enough, me mom was the one who turned around and goes, "Go." She goes, "Go while it's in your head. Get out of here. Go. Enjoy yourself. Go over there. You'll never look back. Promise you you'll thank yourself when you go over." I got over there, John Mitchell literally said to me, "Just book the flight. Just book the flight." Once I booked the flight, he goes, "Grand, it's all right. We'll be looked after." I landed in I think I landed in Dubai. I didn't even know where I was staying. I was just like, "It's Grand." Then John helped me out a good bit. All the boys in John's house's cousin and the all the lads all really really helped me out. Dar as well. Dar's me online coach and fitness mentor now. Like, you know what I mean? He helps me out with that. So all the boys I really fitted in well and all the boys really looked after me the minute I grew over there and just that helped me you know build myself as much as I could but like my god the 14 months was a struggle like there was days where I was going just thinking where's me next meal coming from here like you know what I mean and just through perseverance and just constantly you know going to work trying to get this opportunity to happen that didn't work then just jumping on the next one and through all that then eventually it just clicked for me and then I got you know me regular clients I train in, you know, one of the best facilities in the UAE and I'm just absolutely leveling up every day as much as I can and that's the main thing. >> Yeah. Know, and you've talked to me about leveling up and are you do you think you're going to fight in Ireland again anytime soon or is it going to be over there? And how far do you think you are away from pro? Obviously, we don't want to jump jump too far ahead, but how far do you think you've leveled up to go pro or do you still need a couple more ammies? >> I think one more amateur. One more amateur and then I'm gone. I want to get like an Irish title, an Irish amateur title, and then just go. I mean, I know I have the the European the IMF European title, but I want one one fight in Ireland. Have everyone there make a big statement. Show that, you know, these Irish amateur fighters aren't on my level. I'm well above that level now. I showed it in the IMF. I won the IMF without losing a round. You know what I mean? Show me an Irish fighter that's done that. You know, I stop I wish I got three stoppages. cuz I got two stoppages and then in the last fight I dominated and didn't lose a round. Didn't even break a sweat to be honest in the whole nights. And uh now obviously I wanted to make a big splash on the pro scene. We have good people around me who said let's do one more amateur fight. Let's get the big Saturday night lights on, no shin pads, do the weight cuts, do everything proper, get that amateur fight out the way and then we look to the pro ranks because I know once I hit them pro ranks like I'm going hell for letter. like I'm not going to let up cuz I know the the best pro fighters when they go pro is they stay active. You know, anyone that's made a big spark in the UFC, let's say in Cage Warriors, PFL, UAE Warriors, you know, any of these big big shows, they get on come onto the scene and they don't have one fight a year. They come onto the scene, they have three, four fights that year and it's like, who is this new fella coming in and absolutely knocking everyone out? That's the guy that I'm aiming to be. Coming in, knocking everyone out. first year, you know, building on momentum and then seeing what the crack is then after that because I I already know me value now. Like I've seen what I'm actually capable of. Like, do you know what I mean? I went I went three losses on the bounce. One of the hardest things I had to do on me career, came back and now I think I'm like eight wins on the bounce since that in like four different disciplines. Like, so now it's like now it's like, right, hone in on the MMA, get that discipline locked in and then we go from there. >> Yeah. you're talking about making a splash cuz you really made a splash onto the amateur scene like that you went on such a streak uh and then obviously the losses came but when you came on a streak did you find at one stage cuz I was I was one of the people that was always very vocal about how skillful like where your potential could be the lads in the triangle were very vocal as well do you think did you ever get caught up in your own hype at any stage you think that ever happened to you or >> yeah 100% 100% people forget money 21 >> I was only 19 when I no I was only 70 being 18, 17 and going 18. And when I burst onto the scene there had like five wins in a row, four four knockouts and stoppages I think it was or three three or four something like that was. And uh of course I got into my own head. Of course I thought it was this I thought it was the business. I was beating these fellas. Looking back now, that's a shell of a man I am now. I bully that Sen Kley and he went and he went on that streak there. Now now I'm I'm a different level. I'm more mature. But I think you can see in my performances now in the cage, I'm a lot more mature. Back then, I look like a baby face in there and even fought like one. I fought in a way if you look at my fights in the eye compared to my fights back then. Back then it was like I was in there and I it was like I was there in the headlights a bit. I was like trying to get the win through possible. Now when I get in there I'm like this is my cage. I'm hunting you for as long as I want and I can just march you down. like cuz even in the eye mask anytime I had any small bit of bother let's say I got caught with a shot or something didn't go my way you can just see me faces just boom dead and I'm just like right back to the game plan back to the game plan back to the game plan and it just shows it instilled in you know the coaching that I've been put into me like like what John what John Mitchell says to me you know how to prepare for fights how to get the most out of first few seconds how to get the most out of a whole fight what the game plan for like he's really brought my level up like John John is going to show his level this year as well. Like that man is an absolute sickle. Like he's an animal. >> He's an animal. Like I've never seen anyone who trains this harder, who's more obsessed with the game that than he is. And someone who's who's really, you know, shown me the actual potential in this career and what we can do with it and showed the dep showed myself the potential of me did. So I can I can never thank that man enough. So he he's a big part of the reason why I've, you know, matured since then in my actual fighting career. >> Yeah. No, 100%. like he's been over there and he's seen the level like that man is he is a sicko like you said he is and it's good that he's been able to guide you through these things cuz obviously he's into his pro career and he knows the right and wrongs and not that he can always tell you but he can advise you the best that he can but when you went through that that streak like said you were coming to Jo he hype when the first loss came like how did that feel like when you were riding so high and then get like what was the what was the feeling do you remember >> terrible like terrible it was just Like, do you know what? It didn't hit me at the time. It hit me then like the week or two later when I realized I wasn't the man. It was ego hit. Like, it was ego hit. And you know what? This that's the problem. Like, people people get egos. They will get you will get an ego. You know, it's how you control that. And and that's what happened me. That's all it was. Simple. You know what I mean? I had it sit down with people who mean the most to me. And I had a chat with them and I just said, "What's the crack here?" and like like that at the time Craig me ma Lee me big brother and they were just like you just let your ego get to you know what I mean you thought you were a you thought you could go in there beat these lads and I was looking back and you know my wrestling wasn't as good as I thought my striking wasn't even as good as I thought back then I was like right it's just not as good as you are now let's move on then the second and then the tour loss was obviously big hitters then as well you know what I mean because they were just they're just piling on top of them emotions that you're having you know and what you're thinking about And why you like what's going on? Like why why am I losing these fights? What's happening? Because you don't know. You really don't. All you can do is look at your fight camps and go, you know, where can I improve? Where can I train harder? Where can I get the more out of me training? There was nowhere. It was just me. It was just me slacking. It was just me not doing it under the training. It wasn't the actual problem with the training. It was just me not putting the work in that I did at the start. And once I got that sorted, um, you know, it took a bit of a while. I think I took about 6 months then in between that tour loss and then the Mantis fight. I was in Dubai for four weeks before the Mantis fight then as well. And uh you know I just I put I said to myself like I was right there's no like there's nothing in this fight that's going to that's going to phase me now like I'm not losing four on the bounce. It's not happening to me. It won't happen. And that's why then he had that arm bar on. I don't know if you can remember the arm bar. >> Yeah. And I remember literally looking at me arm and looking at this elbow just going up and up and up and up and I literally had me hand out the top and I looked down. I said like I'd actually rather you break that than lose four in a row. And that's just that's just when me mind switched in that fight. And probably in me whole career when I was like when I was like no like no one wants this as bad as me. Like this isn't the this isn't a hobby for me. This isn't like a little let's go to the gym and have a good time and be fit together. No. like like I'm I'm in here now to really make this. I'm not getting punches in the face for nothing. I'm getting punches in the face to be a millionaire now and to go into the the world and put me name on that world stage. I'm not taking punches to the face for it. That's why I always tell people who are thinking of getting into fighting. It's like to be honest, I do the fitness side of it, >> but I don't see the point of taking hits to the head if you're not going to get money out of it. Because at the end of the day, it's a dangerous sport we're in. >> Yeah. And I'm that dangerous sometimes as you can see when I'm head kicking people. >> Yeah, I've seen it. I've been there as a cage conflict when you you caught him right on the temple. >> And that Mantis fight was the body shot, wasn't it? It was the body shot when you were talking about there with the arm like and you talked about going away thinking about like >> the training and not putting enough like when he had you in the arm, were you thinking like I'm after going away training think like putting everything into this? This is the moment where it's make or break for me. Was it kind of that sort of a moment that you had? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was literally a moment where I was like, did I go away for four weeks? Did I sacrifice time with me family? Did I sacrifice sacrifice time with me? Am I going to let all me loved ones in the crowd watch me tap out after all this? And then I'm right back to square one. I remember just break it like it's grand. That's all I done. I just let me arm and I just tried to move it as much as I could and then I just felt it getting looser, looser, looser. Then when I got out, I was like, "My arm is 100% broken here." Like, and then it wasn't. I was like, "Thank God." >> You were you were lucky cuz I've seen there was a charity BJJ there recently and someone wouldn't tap and you're just like, "Bro, it's a charity BJJ tap and he got his arm broke." I think it was his arm. There you go. >> But and for me like obviously you had a different reason is fighting like getting punched in the face. It's like people don't understand maybe if they don't watch fighting amateurs like the money you spend like you don't get paid until you get pro and even at that the first couple of fights is you're probably not making any money really. you're putting more into your camps. Like how hard like for people that don't understand like what do you have to sacrifice whether it be money, time with family, what can like myself as a civilian do that you can't do because you want to chase this goal? What are the sacrifices? Like I I'll be honest, just getting to the IMFs and just to compete over there cost me upwards of four figures like right like to get there for me flights, accommodation, h what is it the medicals all that spend the money over there easily more more than four figures let's say. Yeah. I get over there and I go no thanks off anyone for it. No thanks me country for it. you know, not even a prize winner or I won that and everyone thought I made it this and that. Oh, how much you get paid? No, I paid my own way to get over there. But I done it because I knew you win that. It's a big thing to have going into the pro ranks. It's a big thing. It's a big competition to enter because you can really test your level there because you're up against the elite of the elite really. Yeah. >> You know, when you go there, you're fighting the best of the best. And that's what I wanted to go for. I wanted to go to fight the best of the best. Um, I went showed my level and I was happy when I got the gold medal and I just left. And that's that. That's why I won't do another one. You know what I mean? I'm not going to go to the to the worlds. At the end of the day, I paid enough out me pocket for it. You know what I mean? I'm not I'm not going to go again go again just to get another gold medal. I've got me gold medal. I got what I set out to do. Now it's about the pro ranks and actually getting paid for this. But you know, albeit pe some people can get sponsored for it, fair play to them. But me, I didn't put it at the time. And I just I think the sacrifice the sacrifices make you need amateur fighters are making to get over there, you know, fair play to them. And I don't think they get enough credit because I'm seeing I've seen some people, you know, some people telling me they're working nearly 60 70 hour weeks just trying to pay to get over there while doing their full-time training, while cutting their weight, while doing all that. So, you know, anyone that goes to the IMAS, you know, I have a newound respect for them because I've seen the work that some people put into just to get over there like, so fair play on that one. >> Yeah. And and when you get there, people don't understand you have to weigh in every day you fight. So, how hard is that when your teammates your teammates have just lost, let's say? They're sitting there eating nice food, but you still have to weigh in. What? Like, what's how much discipline do you have to do to maintain that weight day on day? >> I went over there. I went over there hing middleweight. Right. So, I went over there fighting at 80 83.9. Yeah, 84, right? >> And I gets there and I'm like 86 and I was just looking at the scales. I was just thinking I had to weigh in every day and I said, "Fuck that." Like, I was like, "I'm not doing that." Like, you know what I mean? I just I don't have I just don't have that in me to go fight every day, cut weight every day. So, I remember I went to Marlin Griffin and I said, "What's the story with the 88 kilo division?" And she was like, "I can move you up if you want. like you have to do it before I register. Like I was Yeah. Grand. So I moved up to the 88 kg division. I was weighing in at like 86.5 86 bang on pointing 88. I didn't care though. I just knew I just knew I was like nah like I don't care if you have them extra kilos on me. Like you're not touching me and hear me like and that's that's what that's the way I went in each fight. >> Yeah. And like that you were one of the few people that go in on their first IMF and go and go straight for the gold. A lot of people have to do it a couple of times. We've got multiple like heard someone who kind of stands out. He is a like he is loads wise. I think it's 5050 record but he's got a couple of gold medals but lots of his losses have come at the IMAPs like I said against the best of the best. >> One of the benefits I think as well is knowing people aren't going to pull out unless they miss weight or they're injured like would you have had an issue with pull outs in Ireland on the regional scene. >> Yeah. Yeah. I had a good few to be fair. I actually had a good few pull outs now on the regional scene. Stuff happens like you know what I mean? I don't I don't take it personally like If like if someone pulls out, someone pulls out. I wouldn't want to fight me either. I'd be scared of me. Like, you know what I mean? If if that's what they are, if they're scared, fair enough. Like, you know what I mean? But if they are injured, obviously they're injured. I'm not going to force them to fight. But, uh in ter in terms of the IMAPs, fighting them three days in a row is the heaviest thing I think I've ever done. Like, like waking up on that tour. I'm waking up on that final day. Like, I remember like dragging myself out of bed. I was going to sleep like I was fighting at like 4:00 in the day, falling asleep at like 700 p.m. and then going and weighing in at 6:00 in the morning, then coming back to the hotel, eating your breakfast, and then going back to sleep then until you wake up. Like, it was just sleep, wake up, fight, sleep, wake up, weigh in, fight. Oh, it's heavy. It's heavy. It's not easy. Like, it's not easy at all. I remember the last day I was broke up as well. And I was just like going to the venue and I was like, how am I going to fight here? Like, what am I going to do? Obviously, you start warming up, you start getting going, and then you're like, I will I'll get this handy. Like, I'll do this. Like, >> once you step into the cage, uh I I've probably asked this before, but I'm going to ask you again. Like, do you get tunnel vision? Like, does everything else I know at the IMAPs there's no real crowd as such, but when you go into a competition, does that like blur out and you can only hear your corner who maybe if it was John, if it was your brother over here, what way? Like, when you go into cage, does something just switch or is that switched from before you even get there? Uh yeah, when I step when I step into the cage, um I don't actually get tunnel vision because I actually do can hear a bit of the crowd and I look around. I like to take it all in. Like at the end of the day, I'm I'm not I'm not doing this cuz I don't like being in that cage. I love being in that cage. I enjoy it. You can see me. I always have a smile on me face when I'm fighting. I don't get into the cage and I don't look stressed. I don't look worried. You know, that might be the psychopath in me that loves that. Like, you know what I mean? But I actually do love the violence. Like I love getting in there and like you can see it in me eyes when when I look at someone and and I I hit them and I feel that that shot is out there haunting them. I take pleasure in that, you know, when I hit someone to the body, especially with that TE cuz no matter what, every fight I start off with a TE and no one blocks it. It always lands and I can just see straight away in people's faces. They go from this to and they're like I'm like now I have you. Now you're in here with me. I'm not in here with you. You're in here with me. Let this last as long as you want, pal. you can drop whenever you want and that that's that's when I remember in the IMAS specifically with Colar and Alex Sullivan in the corner like every fight it was like go and do your game like do not worry about what he does not worry about what he's going to come out and do you go in there and you do you and that's that's a beauty of the IMF as well because you don't get a lot of looks at your opponents you can't really game plan so you don't think about too much of what they're doing you're just going in there and I remember I was going in in every fight I was like right put the pressure on wrestle and h get go for the takedown, try and scramble a bit and h if that doesn't work, you have your striking and that that's why I was so confident at the cuz I got to a stage where I was as confident in my wrestling as I was my grappling or my wrestling as I was my striking. So when I was shooting for them takedowns, I was like if he stuffs this, what's the worst that can happen? I break off and he has to strike with me. >> That's probably more your forte. Do >> you know what I mean? So that's how that's when it was a big switch for me when I was fighting and and I knew how how good my wrestling was and I was looking at these and I was like like even if you sprawl on this heavy reverse it we stand up what's going to happen to you then like you're still in my world if this takedown happens you're on your back trying to whip up submissions and I'm just there in your face sticking shots on you like like what I done in the in the IMAS you know so it it was it was a mad it was a different mentality when I was fighting then before. Honestly, it was right. If I can just keep it standing, I'll win this. No. Okay, if I wanted to go to the ground, I'll go bring it to the ground. If I wanted to stay on the feet, I'll stay on the feet. It was that little bit of switch of a mentality. And I think you could see in the confidence in me when I was in there, I was letting my shots go a lot more because I didn't care. I was like, if he catches this kick and takes me down, let him I'll get back up. If he if he doesn't let me take if he spraws on this takedown, he can't he defends it. No problem. You're still standing up with me. Whereas before it was like he needs to stand up with me and I can beat him. If he takes me down I don't know. You get me? Yeah. And then that meant once that mentality switched boom. >> And I like that because like that if you go down and you're trying to work the game and and you're having success there and then it comes back up cuz we know you obviously from before. Like that is your world. The striking is your world. And like you've talked about going pro. I just can't wait to see the elbows underneath. That's that's going to be a whole another level. But I can ask you just one or two more questions. Um, you said obviously you want to come back and win an Irish title. There's a couple of shows. Is there any show in particular? Obviously, I would presume you'd want it closer to Dublin because a lot of the time you've you've seen a lot of the fighters have to go up north. Is there any show in particular or would you just like an Irish title? >> I do you know what? I don't know who holds any Irish titles. I don't know who's on what, but whatever Irish titles is there, I'm taking it. Like so. Cage Conflict. I like that show. H John's training up there now as well. So, I'd happily go on that show, link up with John while he's in Belfast cuz I think that's in September, is it? >> September, October time. I think might be October. >> Yeah, whenever. Whenever it is, I'm ready to go. Anyways, so I'll uh hopefully get on that show. What's that? Belfast, the Devonish, get up there, win that Irish title, and then it's throwing elbows at people then. >> And that is the that like I love all the shows. Your and kind of Case Conflict would be the kind of two that stand out. H the the atmosphere in that place is absolutely mental, isn't it? Like you've been there, you would have fought the hometown fighter and even for every fight, it's just like a cauldron of madness. It'd be a good show to get on. But the last question is um if you want to be remembered as a fighter when you're when everything's said and done, what would you want to be remembered for? When someone said sending Kley, what's the next >> violence? That's what that's what I will be remembered for. Like there's no question about that. Like there's there's not a fight where I've come out and I've not to inflict pain on someone. I'll come out there every single fight I'm looking to just inflict violence on people. That's all I really care about. And I think when people will look back at me and they'll see my career, all they'll see is that man when he got into a cage, they were locked in there with him. He wasn't locked in there with them. That's a mentality switch that I had big time now. So now when I fight to anyone out there that I am going to fight, you're going to be locked in the cage with me. I'm not going to be locked in there with you. So God bless you and save you. >> Perfect. What a way to finish it. Thank you very much for your time. >> Thanks, Dave. Appreciate. Yeah, >> see that? That is the clip. You should know. [Music]