Creating The Bread Batch | Niall Ryan | Energized Show

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What is up and welcome to the latest Energized Show! Our guest on this episode is The Bread Batch creator Niall Ryan. Niall has single handedly created the Internets pop culture hub for online entertainment from his home in Dublin. Check this out as we also discuss the rise of…

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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] okay what's going on guys welcome to a brand new episode of energized ross introduce the guest man we have the creator of the bread batch mr noel rowan noel how are you doing and tell us a bit about the bread batch very good yeah well look it's a [ __ ] it's it's coming to a point now where it's starting to go into like i'm calling it a phase two but i started in october 2017 the whole goal of this is just a tool for me to maneuver around this industry to be honest like i'm not looking to be like a mis like a news guy or anything like that but what the goal was right i need to get contacts and i need to have a platform where i can get be able to connect that to my face later on so basically i've got to the point now where i've achieved that goal like i've i don't know has anyone hit america the way i'm hitting it in the influencers i i don't know i don't know we're like we got logan paul we got jake paul ksi like the uk and the us i've basically got every influencer that matters from both sides so that was the goal from the start so i'm like right god damn time to move on to phase two my phase two will be we'll be inserting my name into the picture so tell tell us a bit about that how did you go about meeting these guys and you know getting in with them so how i started from the beginning was so the uh i was just kind of reporting like so i was i was like right how am i going to make a platform i started originally just kind of posting like drama that went on between the youtubers and stuff then i saw this ksi uh joe weller fighting and this was the first ever like youtube boxing like event that was big like it was basically the first one and i was like right i'm gonna approach this like it's a big ufc fight coming up so that's how i kind of went about i start promoting it i'm promoting and promoting like pushing it hard making posters doing like a like if your team joe weather kind of like the ufc do i basically kind of took their template for a fight week and rolled with that so i think like one of the first probably media probably the first media outlet to really like push it in a way where because i could foresee i knew where it was going after mayweather mcgregor i was like this thing is going to take off on another level and i knew mcgregor and mayweather opened the floodgates and i knew influencers would hop on that trend so when joeller ksi happened i knew it was just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger so that's why i was like i'm going to promote this like it's already on that level and then obviously it's okay as i saw logan paul saw it and they look kind of all these other people started seeing me promote these fights in this way from the beginning and they were like right they reached out to me then and they were like they liked what i was doing and they started kind of pushing myself from the beginning so i wasn't really reaching out to people i was kind of just making people reach out to meet you to work to be honest uh no it is absolutely brilliant what you're doing because like um it is it's fully the way that noise is saying stuff there are so like us we we sort of with the voice where each week is a point week but uh no what you're doing is great and then obviously checking out logan paul's podcast and like some of the other lads they reference you a little bit i remember a message i'm saying they're calling you neil yeah that's the thing yeah it's the irish it's the americans trying to say the irish names but uh now what you're doing is great and even the way you like edit the stuff um it's it's absolutely brilliant like did you do a course in this as well because it's funny how you've literally put yourself into like it's why you call it the mainstream yeah it's the funny thing about the course thing so like uh so leaving cert didn't go my way with the mass so i was like all right what the [ __ ] am i gonna do so i went and done a plc up in uh drahada and i did that plc but then i was like i kind of like i knew i had to do photoshop already because i used to do youtube as a kid like usually a gaming videos when i was like 12 so i kind of learned how to do a thing or two on this like paint.netting what was like right i'm gonna have to learn photoshop if i want to get good at this so i i kind of started teaching myself and then obviously i went to the did the plc i did that for like two months and i kind of learned what i needed to learn there and then after a while i was like right we were moving on to like coding and all this sort of [ __ ] and i was like [ __ ] this the teacher went to the bathroom and i just bounced and at least you had your manners about it you didn't want to get up and leave in the middle of the lecture yeah exactly i just said i'm just like i'm not going back i'm going to get [ __ ] famous on the internet so i said to myself so i went and then i'd be telling my mom going to college every day so i'd wait till she leaves for work she's gone i went up to the local cluster coffee and i'd sit there for hours watching logan paul jake paul all these people i'm kind of learning how they're doing things kind of learning like i could see deeper into what other people are looking at other people are like seeing cringy vlogs but i was kind of looking at like what they were doing the reactions they were getting and i kind of just started i basically went to college for social media it was my own college though so costa coffee was my college campus did you get a warm one yeah well i think i'm graduating man i think i've graduated recently i got my first paycheck recently for ever for the bread match so i think i'm coming a long way yeah and come here what do your mom and dad make this because like mo like our parents don't really understand even podcasts element things what do your parents think of that like you're basically the hub for online influencers to go to on instagram like do they understand it at all yeah well at first when i first like drawn like everything and they found out i dropped down and all that [ __ ] they were like what the [ __ ] and then they're kind of just they think about my parents is they let me do what i want to do that's what like i'm happy with that they said they're like they were confused or like what the [ __ ] but they kind of pushed me on to just they said look see what you can do with this well it's on you with the [ __ ] up joining me and so they let me do what i had to do and but they went from kind of confused to now complete like my man will be asking me what's happening with jake paul and all this [ __ ] if if i'm slacking like i'm there with the lads or some [ __ ] i'm like i'm not the one where i'm posting today my mouth i'll get what's that message when that post should just say post post post oh i'm like it's gone from a bit confused to annoyingly support as well that'll say what's going on honestly that's great what does what do they make of when like yeah they're like oh we're gonna flowing oil out somewhere or like noel's going to the the biggest events in the world he's like a vip out of it like what what do they think about they're happy oh yeah they're [ __ ] like fair play like i think when they started realizing it's becoming a real thing as well recently when i did my first like major deal because i was always like i never really wanted to do like brand deals and stuff i was kind of like i'm gonna do it in a way where like i my first paycheck's gonna be a big deal so obviously i'm i got uh i'm working with social globes in this event for the youtubers versus ticktackers in june so they've seen that and their scientists realized it's become like it's becoming like a business and it's becoming like a real thing now obviously i had to put that graft in for four years and obviously that was [ __ ] hard like that was hey yeah tell me about it yeah it was [ __ ] like no payoff just kind of wondering like there's obviously doubts and stuff you're like oh like where is this going to go do you mean like like you have a vision in your head but you're like when you're constantly putting in the work putting in the work and putting in the work and then like i'm just not [ __ ] money and like you're getting older and [ __ ] like i'm [ __ ] nearly 23 so i'm like right this is gonna have to start [ __ ] before i [ __ ] we're about to hurt you about so like where we know exactly where you're feeling like yeah joining me you kind of just like right these bears start paying off sooner i'm gonna say [ __ ] this and go work somewhere but uh recently it's become like a real thing so that's what i'm excited about yeah no i love looking at the hustle because like obviously myself are always looking for people on the up whether it be athletes or people doing something like that on social media and like you're definitely killing it like are you a one-man band there yeah yeah that's all they had like right people think i have a team because the torment i post and demand all that [ __ ] literally so my schedule now is literally so a lot of the time i'm on like california time so sometimes i'm up to six in the morning yeah it depends like if jake paul wants to go crazy on a day or night jake paul goes crazy one day i might be up till seven in the morning if he doesn't i might get another nice early sleep it depends on what they're doing but uh my schedule right now it's like i'll sit here for about four or five hours and just post post post post post then i go train i do my boxing training and either like i'd have a weight day or a boxing day and then other than that that's all i'm doing i'm eating sleeping training and then posting so would you be ever interested in getting in the ring yourself one of these days against one of these guys i mean because i i've seen i i i've seen it i've seen the gloves you know what i mean i've seen the sort of yeah well look i'm gonna say the last thing people the influencers will want is another young confident irish guy getting in the ring that can actually [ __ ] fight that's all i'm gonna say they don't want another conor [ __ ] mcgregor or anything like that because like that they can't talk like us john i mean they can't like the conferences will be easy and people have said it to me like deji i talked to dej and daddy says i would not want to be at the other end of the year when i [ __ ] press conference because i know everything about everyone so but i definitely 100 that's where i'm going with this because like it's so it's a way for me to branch out because i don't want to be just like red bash guy so i'm like all right how am i going to make my name for this and i know so what the tick talkers are seeming to do is they're like right they're going this boxing route to kind of get rid of that tick tock or kind of [ __ ] label that's thrown on them yeah so i'm like i think i'll have to do the same thing so i'll have to get in the ring and i'll have to i don't care and put whoever in there with me and i'll just do what i have to do i'm like going back to the old mcgregor quote stay ready so you don't have to get ready so i'm training every day so what do you make of that like yeah like what is doing what noise is unbelievable as well but then like also being like knowing that he could get in the ring as well and then just branch out even more what'd you make it out well first of all not i'm like totally not in the youtube world like i don't watch jake paul i don't watch logan paul barry watch for a bit of well he says he stays in the loop on what's going on right yeah and then sometimes barry follows me but i'm so much more in the loop about what's going on because of the bread match i rang barry the other day and go what'd you make of that knock between stromde and broy's heart i thought it was absolutely hilarious this happened recently like so i was in my mates house and we're like yeah we're having a little get-together for the jake paul fighting and he's like a big mma fan he goes can't believe i just said that but yeah that's happened so like it's cross i think it's starting to make its way in now i do it all the time like uh i ring bars and i go because like oh i'm very much in their man like uh i won't say it was so against like this point right jake paul versus ben askren i'm saying to pass ago can't believe we have to cover this fight but like we have to cover it because there's a massive interest in them well i think i've finally come to terms where you can i can separate it from those professional boxing there's professional mma and then there's this like sort of celebrity called professional boxing because they're getting a paycheck from them but you don't mean if you separate that into its own thing i'm okay with it if that makes sense 100 it's more of a show than anything i mean and the way they're even doing it i don't know if you've seen like the way twitter are doing their events social gloves they're going for the same vibes as well where this music art is showing up and does it it's like they call it the circus it is a [ __ ] circus but it's a [ __ ] everyone likes a circus so [ __ ] let's go and watch the [ __ ] circus by the way exactly the promo for this i think it was it was a trailer one with like snoop dogg and jake paul and something i was like that was a [ __ ] brilliant problem yeah the one with the [ __ ] uh i think dodger cat and everything wasn't yeah i know oscar de la hoya was at the start of it yeah yeah yeah yeah that one was sick and i was like i was like right like the production value in this is like absolutely top of the range you know what i mean yeah like sometimes i have to like faz sends me links but like do you wanna watch the press conference i'm like i don't know if i can watch the press conference because uh i i see it almost a bit cringy because yeah more so because i look at ben oscar and think like he's a curly haired like man who's retired has already had a hip replacement and like it's just looking for a nice payday you know yeah yeah like he doesn't because he doesn't take jake seriously as in like i know jake could easily beat him in this boxing match but like i think they don't know if it was you know if they were on the street as ben ashmore would say eat homicide i mean like his wrestling is like next level compared to someone who doesn't do wrestling or maybe did wrestling in college but uh yeah as a as a boat itself it is interesting this is interesting to see kind of a young guy who's known as a youtuber although like you know he's been boxing training for three years and it's not like he doesn't you know get the best people in you know i mean bj flowers no joke and he's going in there and he's fighting and then may veteran uh sometimes i think it's almost like you can see the headline youtuber beats ufc fighter you know i know i know what he's going for i know and because because people who don't understand anything about the fight game are going to be like oh my god jake paul better ufc fire so it's smart marketing on his pair but at the end of the day like i think fight fans know like look he's arrested like i was having this conversation today where it was like so obviously to some mma fans obviously who believed that [ __ ] ben askren still has a chance and he was like look he took those hits from robbie dollar that time uh he [ __ ] obviously when he was dropped on his head and [ __ ] and then obviously [ __ ] he's taken smacks off real far as before but i'm like right but there was always the track to take down like what's going to happen when he can't wrestle you know what i mean is because he's just going to keep clinching his ref just going to keep saying break break break eventually like there's only so many [ __ ] smacks at the head you can take before you're on your restaurant i mean so yeah what what to sort of make of jake paul as a person as well do you think he's like the number one like social media influencer i'd say him and logan in terms of making the biggest waves in the mainstream him logan ksi are kind of putting their own bracket of influence well the rest are kind of like in the middle i'd say ksi logan and jake have kind of like made that cross over into the mainstream already which other influencers are trying to do and i think more it's going to happen for more people like i'd see uh i think bryce hall's gone in that direction as well uh any other ones um i'd say bryce hall and taylor holder are the only kind of male tig talkers that i think are gonna last and you think they're gonna stay in the boxing as well because obviously they're doing the youtubers versus take talkers that's right like mr ross we've been covering this for since the joe weather ksi fight and then like uh ksi logan paul and then as i said yeah but then you see aaron helwani interviewing these lads as well and it's just like this is crazy how it is now in the it's now the real thing it's weird like all this i i said back in because i remember right so when jake was thinking about fighting gabe and he was just gonna spare him in his backyard and i said to jake i said i think i think you're gonna k on one round and i did call that one eventually the fight did get put together and i knew jake was gonna kill him in one round he didn't come but he got clipped in his [ __ ] fight against another youtuber who can't even fight as well don't i mean i knew jake was gonna stay on and then i said that and then uh [ __ ] i said to jake what what what did you say before i went on that thing about gabe that way it's just sort of changed like uh yeah yeah i said jake the way this has gone if you fight dylan dallas and all these other people it's going to end up with you on espn it's going to end up with you again interview by ariel helwani i knew from the very beginning i have stories archived from 2018 where i was saying like that's the direction this is going to go in and i knew and that's why i hopped on it and that's why i went like youtube boxing season comes the bread batch just becomes solely about that because at the end they just drives the most numbers but like obviously so like when youtube boxing season slows down i'll go into other things but when it's your shoebox this season i just fully [ __ ] pushed with that so no what is it about no what is it about that like you seem to just have that thing in the back your mind i don't know what it is it could be like a creative thing or maybe you see the obvious like what what like what really made you click on this you at this boxing thing like it's you seem to be like a couple of steps ahead of other people it's not everyday muscle crossing talking people that know so much about social media you know i think it was i think it's just one it's a combination things the way i [ __ ] think i've always thought like i feel like i think [ __ ] different to other people about a lot of [ __ ] like all my friends say like when they've talked to me and [ __ ] they get motivated to actually [ __ ] do stuff do you get me like they always say every time they have a conversation with me they want to [ __ ] do more and then also i think i discovered that conor mcgregor as well i think he's an influence on a lot of us from here but i think i just put him at the right age because i didn't have any confidence when i was like 16 and [ __ ] like i'd be i was the guy who was afraid to walk in the gym when all the big lads were there and [ __ ] you know what i mean but uh i was mcgregor i think 18 i think when that notorious documentary was an rte i think 2015 or some [ __ ] so just coming out of secondary school i started listening to him and then he kind of it's kind of just everything started falling into place in my head and i started looking at everything different and then i just kind of applied a lot of the things he said to the social media game and then i was kind of like able to like even like some of the things that will happen on the internet like i've kind of like manufacture it you know i mean like all right i'm like i'm in the mood of beef today okay what will i do and i'll get jake paul and tommy fury [ __ ] like i'll troll who would who would win enough like i actually forgot that i forgot yeah i'm like who would win in a fight jake paul or tommy for you randomly out of the blue and everyone's like why the [ __ ] you ask the stupid questions and i'm like let's see what happens next thing what the next day [ __ ] i knew he was going to see it because he did his weigh-in he was sitting in this hotel room doing nothing i saw him on a story just chilling there like [ __ ] eating food i'm like he's definitely going to see this post next day tyson fury all of a sudden calling out jake paul on his twitter to fight tommy i'm like he [ __ ] definitely saw that and said that to tyson and then obviously jake respond i was like perfect content for me and it just drove numbers for that week and went up roswell to make it uh it's absolutely genius on on your behalf and it's it's actually it's so so uh good see and so class c it's coming from ireland are you in constant contact with jake paul nearly every day on like what you're putting out uh no every now and then like we don't talk as well every few weeks like we'll like say something like orderable like ordered that like not like fly out but like when we do talk we will talk and then he'll like send me like sometimes he'll send me [ __ ] like that i may have not seen or like yeah older than that no not as much logan the whole lot like i'll talk to alderman like every few weeks to get me but i wouldn't be like flat out messing with them or anything like that and are these guys giving you like exclusive content to put on the bed batch as well being like here's a little snippet from something that like you know maybe hasn't been seen anywhere else not really no i'm just getting most things off twitter and [ __ ] like i just i just i just it's something pops open twitter and like right throw that up or i'll just see their youtube videos you get me well excuses i get them sometimes but like it's not regular obviously as time goes on you get more used to chopping and editing and stuff and things become a bit more simpler ross you know yourself from clipping up these little videos like is this now just handy enough not like handy but like you sort of know that you can do it quick enough oh yeah i'm on autopilot now man i'm just [ __ ] just yeah i mean like i'm not [ __ ] it's it's pretty like the only things that will take a bit of time with like if i do like a training editor or something like that but other than that it's kind of just like the templates sitting there on like on a minimized tab something happens bring it up just slide it in oh man honestly people ask me that question i'm like i don't [ __ ] know so we run like a randomizer like a necklace i was trying to come up with a name for and i was the bronzers like word randomizer websites and [ __ ] and i was like well the goal of this is to make bread i was just like what goes batch that's going to the bread batch so i just [ __ ] named it joining me i didn't put too much time into it that's pretty good that's pretty good uh another thing i had to bring up as well uh we had dylan morgan on and he was he was called up with jake paul was this before or after and then brad brad shared it and we like things like blew up like that was like our most viewed video i remember i was in touch after saying like cheers to that but it was yeah it was there it was pretty cool ross doesn't have to be featured on that and we were what we ended up with like yeah hollywood fix and stuff tell a story yeah i think we had dylan more on and obviously uh jake paul played the picture of him mcgregor saying that you know he was a scrub and that he you know he got knocked out or whatever and and then dylan called out jake and uh he called him out on our show we sort of clipped up we put it out on uh our social and then obviously we sent it on to yourself at the bread batch no no no no no no no no that someone else sent it to know we didn't send it to know all that time do you know no time after we did but the first time we did but then you tell the bleeding story well you were there man oh yeah this is the domestic we have to stop this but yeah not uh no like shout outs out on the bread batch and then things like went pretty crazy like we were getting featured in like the hollywood fix and stuff this is this is very you know used to this sort of a-list treatment but like it was it was it was random for us too without support there i think yeah hollywood life i think it was something like that yeah it was i'm going with those at the boys and i think your man nick from hollywood life must have seen that and he must have got it up yeah yeah that was a funny week that was with the [ __ ] dylan warren and uh i've actually been talking to him with my boxing and stuff it could be a thing where i try and he could be part of the training account before when i finally fight so that could be attaining jeremy and so he's he's an absolute gent he's an absolute gent yeah i think he's he's a he's in the top three most appearances on energized yeah yeah but but then like right as we look at we look at the fight this weekend um obviously jake like he wanted to fight dylan downer stealing dallas was on andrew schultz's podcast saying that he was actually meant to fight him he asked for a month he asked for the fight to be put back a month uh jake's team declined so jake is now fighting ben askren obviously jake's had three boxing matches one amateur and then a two pro and like realistic the amateur one was actually his hardest fight been asking does he make this yeah dead you gave him a good go uh then um ben askren's obviously hasn't competed in boxing no we'll start off with you right looking at it now what do you see the outcome being in this fight first round knockout jake paul first round knockout jake paul i think that's going to be nate robinson again it's going to be a meme everywhere that's what i see happening i i'd honestly i'd be very [ __ ] surprised if jake doesn't win i'd be very smart like you'd have to be some [ __ ] talker to say the things jake said like when i look jake i just believe what he's saying and i honestly believe in his ability i believe he has a good camp around him i believe he's just going to get in there and [ __ ] start him in the first or second round it's going to be it's going to be a quick one so don't go to the bathroom russ russ what do you think i know by the way jake paul 23 like i can't believe he's even created this world from supper 23. ross what do you think the outcome is going to be uh no i i've sort of come to the conclusion where when i asked every time i lied to myself say ben ashford's going to win but i don't i don't believe it really yeah look jake paul is so much younger he's in better shape and one thing i think that is almost very evidence jake paul taking this very very seriously i don't think ben ashman's actually taking it that seriously i think he can show up on things he can show up on the night and just win by his voting right and i don't think that's going to happen uh well ben's a tough character so i'd say maybe fourth round knockout for jake paul yeah right jake goes at everything like 100 miles an hour and i think he knows that if he loses to bed ascertain it's gonna be [ __ ] embarrassing like he can't lose to ben like whatever if he loses against [ __ ] mcgregor if they when it whenever they [ __ ] fight but as far as ben asks from like that's just gonna be like and i don't know if it's gonna be the be-all or end-all even if he did lose because then they logan lost to ksi and he's [ __ ] doing all right for himself exactly yeah well uh he definitely can't do i i think ben though i think he's uh letting it like letting it on that he's not taking it seriously but i imagine he is as well because at the end of the day he [ __ ] looked a lot better on the pads in that open workout i think he i think he's been feeling a lot of us enough in those uh videos he's been putting up because somebody in the videos he puts up and he's he's [ __ ] hitting like that you're kind of like what the [ __ ] he doing but then you seen the open workout yesterday and you're like chase he looks all right there look there were snappy convert combinations he was trying so he said he's it's a little bit stiff though wasn't he put it this way he won't be doing a backflip or anything in there no 100 yeah he's going to be clinching for his life i'd say that's why i think it's going to be messy looking you usually when we do our like either like our combat shows like if two people pick one person i'll pick the other but there's something about ben asking looking so stiff that i can't put my money on it whereas jake is uh you can see he like you can see he thinks that he could lose everything if he loses like just he doesn't want to be mean it means more to him if he loses rather than like ben asking is like here look i'm just going to hang it up if i lose but i think jay paul is going to win and another thing as well so shout out to all the jake paulers even though russell's part of the oscar and army during the week but um it's more what we find interesting not the actual fight itself it's more like what happens after like if jay paul gets on the mic who's he going to call out is it going to be conor mcgregor is he going to say dylan that like that is going to be the more interesting thing and then as we've said here take talkers are going to be fighting youtube there's going to be more of these events kso is gonna fight um i don't know if ksi is gonna fight again it's [ __ ] it seems like a long shot now it's he's so focused on music i don't see ksi jake paul happen at all but who knows of that like these events will keep rolling i mean important oh yeah it's more it's more the entertainment value that like boxing is really really lacked that these lads are bringing in and stirring the pot like you know yourself now this is pure uh content you know so like uh yeah but it'd be better for this is going to sound weird but it'd be better for the people as in the the people that love entertainment for jake paul to win oh 100 it's going to it will give more longevity to it and it will just make it more like uh what's the word that [ __ ] i'm looking for like certified did you admit in the [ __ ] fight games you know what i mean as far as like [ __ ] ben askren and yeah i'm a big fan of ben asking as well that's the thing like he's uh like he's a really really nice guy i don't think jake knew what his real personality was like before he started the contract but no what what do you expect now if jay let's let's just play devil's advocate here because like greatest you've been asking wins he'll probably just sail off into the zone doing his coaching and then like um fair play to him he fully deserves it he's a great career but if jake paul wins no what you sort of foresee happening because like you're in the loop so let us let us know what you're thinking about it's either he's probably going to fight dennis or [ __ ] diaz next i reckon that's why he's not going to get mcgregor straight away mcgregor's not going to give him that straight straightaway joining me and so mcgregor's kind of i think he's more focused on having actually a good final run in the ufc so i don't think he gives a [ __ ] about jake paul i think as far as mcgregor is concerned he's kind of just like i'll do that when i have the time for it you know what i mean like he's kind of like i can do that rolling off the couch in his head i think that's what mcgregor's thinking so i think [ __ ] jake's gonna i think it's gonna be dylan dennis i think that's what we're getting next ross what do you think bud you're gonna be a matchmaker no i don't i definitely think that didn't dana's fight is uh the only one to really make to be honest i feel like dad and danish has given up on the mma game to try and get a boxing fight with uh jake paul and i think that's the only fight to make although i do think if ben asked him managed to win like him versus dylan dallas in a box match is the last thing anyone wants to see and so like let's let's let's be fully honest here jake paul is the draw um yeah and i think jake paul you know he needs to keep winning for you know trailer to keep uh throwing them out there making this this big spectrum he's like their main man now like their golden boy so i think that's [ __ ] for trailer to have longevity with the fight club they're gonna have to [ __ ] jake's just gonna have to keep [ __ ] winning and like the devastating fashion he won last time so yeah and obviously yeah logan paul showed up at wrestlemania there the other night do you direct him that could be something in logan paul's career and wwe because i know you were talking about sort of ksi jake paul and logan paul being in their own bracket well i feel like logan paul has now sort of become a media darling out of the three of them and i feel like he is now almost the most well received by the general public well i think i think the wwe now are looking at [ __ ] what's going on with this box and the influence are seen and they're probably thinking in their heads they have to catch up to the times sure what i mean because wwe is kind of like you the [ __ ] watches that anymore yeah it's going on a big time yeah yeah it's like we because you ever look at it now and you'll say i've seen that 10 years ago did you the [ __ ] same storylines over and over again so to make it interesting i think chaos what's going to happen is going to be ksi and logan the wwe i actually said it to my mate my pt while we're trying i said i bet you that's what they do a few days later a [ __ ] interview pops up of the wwe kind of nudging logan saying would you do a fight with ksi in the wwe ring and ksi will for sure jump on that i know he loves the [ __ ] like all his old youtube videos and everything was like he had wrestling skits and everything so i can see that one yeah paul ksi wrestlemania i'll [ __ ] watch it i can't believe i can see it as well and i can see conor against uh jake paul as well at some stage it's the entertainment scene is so weird no this is like you must be literally licking your lips being like the next 10 years like you'll be living it up oh 100 and that's the plan so the plan then is insert myself into the scene then as well jenna i mean like i in my head the way i look at it is i'm in that bracket of ksi logan paul jake well that's where i look at myself yeah so like i've done my job with the bread match the goal was to get the contacts and get the [ __ ] uh [ __ ] the contacts and the money god i'm [ __ ] doing that now so i'm like right time to move on to level two which is going to be true doing things like this the interviews other things and then eventually when i get that when i get the opportunity because i've just been talks and just be testing set here and there when i get the opportunity i'll be ready for that and then that's when i'll start branching out doing different things but i had to make sure i had the lifestyle to be able to [ __ ] vlog it i mean who wants to see a vlogger look i could have vlogged what we're going to do vlog me and babari and just [ __ ] strongly bill so i'm kind of ready to move ahead with that and so i am ready for the next 10 years or so whatever this industry has and i like the way it's gone it's gone the way i wanted to go it's all the things that interest me the [ __ ] influencers seeing the fight game a [ __ ] everything is just kind of bundling up into one tank so it's perfect for me yeah russell i think i'd agree with that as well just the way the word the world sort of got to fight the game the way we're covering everything as well i think it's it's working out nicely for us as well the next few years once we'll go to events again i think it's going to work out pretty nice yeah well i think now uh especially during the pandemic ufc stock went up really really high and you know box and stock went deploy went that followed suit and you know it carried on and i think now on on bt sports like they're like football and then mma like they're the biggest sports and i think boxing's not far behind especially like joshua fury on on the open up and like you know eddie hearn who like basically runs half a box and you know he knows about these things like he promoted ksi versus logan paul um he won't be adverse to doing them again in the future and oscar de la hoya is on board with this as well you know i mean he's a big promoter in the states is he point eddie alvarez apparently yeah apparently that's gonna be a [ __ ] weird one yeah definitely especially considering like i don't see either of them as like i'm not like don't need to see the press conference i think half the battle with these guys is you need to be like wanting to watch the press conference yeah for sure and that's what i think there's a that's a that's kind of a big problem as well with the influencers as well not a lot of them can show up and do it on that level which is why i put kind of ksi logan paul and jake paul in their own bracket but like a lot of these influencers show up to some of these conferences and they're just you kind of just see you're like yeah you're not very good at this yeah you have to be able to do it all or if you can't do it i'll just get the full girl sometimes it's more important to be actually able to talk to talk then walk the walk yeah i mean like you have to be able to because you know being able to walk the walk is no good if you can't put the bums in seats yeah no for sure and that's what i think that's the problem with boxing boxing was having for a while now and i think that's why it's kind of getting rejuvenated that's what mike tyson said that this influencer box and what's going on now is bringing it back because boxing was at this weird stage like obviously it was what's getting more entertaining with like fury and like wilder and joshua but like how long is that going to last and then like you look at the other divisions and you're kind of just like who gives like who cares what i mean like unless you're actually like a die hard boxing fan and you kind of care about the skill aspect but i think the thing is though a lot like 90 percent of the the audience is always our [ __ ] casuals i got the end like the hardcore always like to say casual casual casual but like most of the time it's [ __ ] casual watching these big events and that drives the numbers that's where the money is the money's in the casuals i mean if you base your business off just hardcore fans your sport you wouldn't last very long you need to make people exactly you need to make the people who don't generally have an interest have that interest yeah and that's where the money is 100 i think that's what wwe done so well back in the day and i think a lot of the industries have taken from that and they're kind of like [ __ ] that's what like a lot of these press conferences are like [ __ ] shows now you know what i mean i think we can change the game for sure it's only evolving as well like who knows what the landscape is going to look like in a couple of years you know yeah yeah well i i think you if you look at the ufc pay-per-view model you know i mean any time ufc do you pay for you they're probably gonna get 300 000 boys no matter who's on the card that's just what they'll generally get why they're hardcore fans and then you see like maz vidal and you got like 1.2 million you seen ideas you might get 1.3 you see conor mcgregor and you get close to 2 million i mean like these these guys are the ones who people are like drawn to and that's what actually makes you know makes the company money and trailer have that and jake paul you know i mean yeah who knows depending on how much is this pay-per-view knowledge you know 25 i think yeah i'm not sure i think they were saying i think they were saying 50 i think it was standard or i'm not sure and sorry do you have a 23.99 do you ever estimate on what they're sort of projecting to sell yeah well i i haven't a clue but i saw the child silence uh is predicting the sales email yeah well i wouldn't be surprised oh like that's that's what i'm looking at and i mean if you can sell uh a million pay-per-view boys that would definitely be uh conor mcgregor's interest because conor will also think that and he probably will be able to that he could almost fight jake paul in between camp yeah probably as a little warm-up type thing yeah 100 and like that that's how that fight could happen you know i mean you wouldn't even necessarily need to take time off it could be instead of going sparring that day he goes to fight straight paul that day yeah it's [ __ ] gas when you think about it because jake sees this as like a competitive thing but mcgregor will be looking at this little warmer before his real fight yeah when i when i collect that bag uh yeah we referenced earlier that like this is it's gone even to another like level as youtubers are going to be fighting tick tockers and this is going to be on june 5th so now we're going to have to get you back on in the middle to that as well but before we before we let you get back to um all the madness because like literally everything's going down tomorrow oh sorry i have saturday um who you said you would like to step in the ring is there anyone in particular you've you're always set on whoever i don't care man put whoever in there and i can do what i have to do joining me and i'm just staying ready and i have been like and do you know what the funny thing is about all of this i'm saying uh we're in the shadow right and i'm with wonderlads open in my local gym right he's and he's a pt he's not even a boxing coach and i swear to god i'm looking better than [ __ ] so i'm learning so quick and the way i learned i'm a visual learner so i just [ __ ] i just i can look a [ __ ] floyd mayweather in a bag notice certain movements and [ __ ] and i kind of kind of just replicate it's always how i've been like because i learned to [ __ ] dance when i was younger you can do the michael jackson [ __ ] you know what i mean so i kind of talked that kind of way i learned and put it into my boxing and it's working like i shot it like i showed it to two people to put the recent footage i showed it to dylan and i showed it to a girl a girl in our club she's an ireland champion and she said she was impressed dylan said it looks it's a decent start so it looks very good he said i just need to [ __ ] practice my movement well i'm like if i'm looking all right to boxers without a [ __ ] boxing coach and just kind of looking at a few youtube videos i said once i get in there in a proper camp like i've been talking to on roddy and a few other people about potential things in the future i swear to god i feel like i'm going to clean house and i'm [ __ ] ready for i can't wait i'm raring to get in there so i'm excited it's a cool sort of field to be in being like going to fight someone who also was only like training to fight for that fight you know i mean it's almost like it's almost doing like white-collar boxing on the larger scale possible if that makes sense that's basically what it is that's what like i think ksi joe weller is the biggest ever white collar boxing event in the uk yeah that was probably in the world man well yeah i'd say so yeah uh ross before we wrap things up is there anything else you want to say before we wrap things up no i just want to thank again thank you so much for coming on and i know you've never done an interview before so uh and it's nice to get the first one in the box you know what i mean yeah about a year ago and then he was like wait wait wait wait but now it's perfect i'm ready to go now i wasn't ready then i needed another year so i'm ready to go when you're over on your yacht from miami you know man and you're you're you're there on espn doing your interviews you can always like the first ones with the energetic show but who knows we could be on it espn interviewing you there so well what the recent ufc is or the documentary it was looking sick uh the count yeah our cheers are actually saying that yeah we were on the uc 259 countdown video and then we were just found out again we're going to be on the ufc 261 mass values and one as well so like we're literally just just it's it's it's true it's just great to see someone else is growing and then you can feel it you don't you understand the grind you know people that don't put like so much time into this yeah you really really understand because literally you just [ __ ] build up a small like work work work eventually you just [ __ ] read the world and it's not just one interview won't it like you get that interview but then you have to keep going you know it's so crazy you know it's such a crazy crazy game but i'd highly recommend it for anyone but no uh where could people find you let the people know yeah instagram instagram is my main it's not ryan that's [ __ ] where i i'm sitting all the time jeremy and like i'm sure the bread batch people will know but as far as my personal that's going to be the main focus going into next year so it's just that it's not right on instagram and that's it is there anything else over the next year that they should definitely watch out for as well before we wrap it up i let them i left them anticipated because i have a loveland so i let them anticipate it that's one act of brain right there you don't mean there's a lock out on that head i say you found it very hard to sleep well i think you're finding very hard to sleep you can't see like coming out don't get this i'm lucky if i sleep i love it right uh okay so everyone thanks a lot for tuning in uh we're all predicting that jay paul's gonna win i think it's going to go to decision i think jay's going to start strong and then sort of fade away a bit but he was probably still winning uh we all think jake paul is going to win it's going to be so interesting to see what happens after because like this is entertainment and that's why we all love it but if you are new to the show make sure to like make sure to share make sure to subscribe make sure to comment and as always stay energized