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What is up and welcome to the latest Energized Show! This video with Kiefer "BDK" Crosbie was recorded in front of a live audience at Fight-Con Ireland in Cork. We discuss how Kiefer started out his combat career, training in SBG Ireland & his future plans at 155 pounds in…

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Kiefer Crosbie joins the Energized Show from SBG Ireland to discuss his rising Bellator career, fan support in Ireland, and ambitions to fight in major U.S. venues like MSG or Boston. He reflects on a recent Bellator appearance where he was not the main event despite strong crowd draw, his co-main slot on a U.S. Bellator card, and his lightweight move toward 155 pounds after weighing 159. Crosbie describes his north Dublin upbringing, early kickboxing at a local gym, a disillusioning world championship loss on points, and teaching himself grappling from the internet before his first MMA bout in Newcastle. He credits Tristan Kennedy and John Connery for nutrition and strength work, stresses discipline over hype, and shares candid views on walk-out production, backstage mind games with a recent opponent, fear as a motivator, and controversial judging. He targets champions like Terry Brazier, critiques lay-and-pray wrestling, predicts Pedro will beat Pitbull in Connecticut, and praises SBG Ireland’s expanded facility and Conor McGregor’s potential when fully focused.

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okay what's going on guys welcome back to the energized show here with my mom Rosco I'm BDK keeper Crosby has a form ul I'm very well they're very very his core treating is as good as Alban it's not as good as don't voice [ __ ] it's good yeah it's great day out down here isn't it like people got to be people left I've been following for ages I dunno what the energy stops in the realm France a month on Amin breather in the Cajun everybody's on top form everyone's just [ __ ] happy to see me I'm happy to see them don't make you feel and grateful yeah I'm just you know it's man I'm still getting used to the fact that people are coming up and [ __ ] like we are saying upstairs man coming up and they're like trembling they're hugging me and telling me they owe me a what this is a misers or just 40 people in the Cajun I mean I'm not pleading that special bird here it's it's a humbling and I'm very grateful that people would clear our way to actually show support come here and support or we do I mean obviously of group support for you and I know it's coming back to me nearly in a way Jana many people I support me on my rose to the top so I'm very very grateful for everybody that's come out to be honest every single person or do think that something that's very evident with the origin we do support our own and I know a lot of for say oh they're doing to come over to Ireland for you oh boy I think they don't realize that if you're not Irish you don't get that pop when you come here I mean like when you came in battle-torn open like you like you or the people's main event there I mean I would think even said to myself odd words it doesn't matter where you are in the current that's the main event do you feel like you're always the main event oh you think so yeah look it's it's everyone always makes this big ordeal aware I'm gonna be on the card or you should be up here you should be down there and I always say to people I actually doesn't matter like you can put me in the first void know everybody's gonna be on their feet everyone's gonna be posing I'm gonna blow the roof off the place more than anyone I know you like to call meself the main attraction more so than the main event so I don't really care where you put me and it was weird cuz last week it actually paid me difference was when I went backstage I'm not gonna say the arena toy down by a lot of people left and afterwards everyone said to me you know it was just showed that after i four people were like re don't hear now a little bit you know and I was like a toy down a little bit I think that just showed again where you know maybe I should be the main event that but if they don't wanna put me as the main event I don't care hit to be honest I'm just gonna still do what I do so was there any talks about that you could have possibly been the headliner as well because a lot of people were like wow because when once a couple last fill our peak we fell off James fell off then myself across like you were gonna make main event and then depict layer but we were like up there is like ult in contention I think it was obvious that every was gonna go out keepers the main event now put it yeah I think just the way I walked there was that like you know they put a spin on it with the female for you being at my event and Lea obviously Lea's ago I'm a big family gentleman and I really I've number respect for a teen she's brilliant and you know I respect the fact that she's like a mother to a young girl and she's like you know comes up that Dublin for four times a week you know drops I hit the skill comes I love all that I mean that story to me is like a brilliant story and I think that's what they went through at that time but like me gone like it's obviously a Kieffer's gonna be the main event but as I said I'm on the card and that's good to know for everyone I think regardless of on the top of the bill middle it doesn't matter anyone I always well I suppose you can look you know we now get the scruff oh I'm that good yeah that the only losses to meself well I suppose you have to look at it this way as well that you were actually on the ballot or to 4G card so you went about the paramount at out the states so it sort of gives you that bit more always across the pond which is always pray for the for the career going forward you know I mean so I suppose you were you were the co-main event on that card so maybe they were like you know what Kieffer's keepers cool for the future so will will show him to the American audience I supposed to all you know of Lea's for you was shown on American TV that's exactly what the new be honest are trying to build me an American boy brand gets bigger over there it gets bigger everywhere right so if you make it and obviously look I'm probably one of the biggest names in origin may now that's great in Albury yeah well you really want to increase your branch at the OTO America right you have to go all around the world and I think that's exactly what the tone today with me and hopefully more next way is gonna be in America in a big stadium the MSG or Boston or somewhere like that you know mean and then I'll back to global and then at the end of the year or so else in your head was that conversation start with battle toward being like right I want to be an MSG I want to be in all these walk up when I go I'm gonna be an MSG and they go really no problem whatever you want Big Daddy and I go tanks go dog you would you either I think it's you know what peanut oil ish as well don't they eat msg or balsam so my dad it's like it's common sense you and it makes sense to have meeting such a big name here for me to cardio at Oakland and the Irish flag and MSG will be unbelievable to remain yeah but away you change your entrance music era the other day did you maniac today yeah did you know it was a bit of a flop to be honest because the [ __ ] the sound system was there broke we were saying that yeah yeah sound the engineer blading there everyone's walking it was a bit broke because I was actually saying that like they hired off the body when it didn't need to be heard up and it wasn't high enough what I need before I know and then we were sitting in media row I like to speak I kept on like muffling the soy dust in the middle of the fight smells like the fader now in our glue the same one needs to be replaced I think everyone's just looked at that stage anyway Saronic whatever I just on that for you singing homes and I'm it was all good yeah people when they go to Bellator them now like just like you're a walk out and there's like James walk out and then P Terk really but zombie and like people are almost like I was excited for the walk outside and it's because like like you say the orange fountains loft kept behind our foyer I like it most be so intimidating for a frittata when he came in when then sought out like he'll no it wasn't actually to be honest he was just stone cold to be honest even they got clip I put Bellator put up the other day of me backstage like he was here Jeremy and I know it was speaking to him and I was like I normally do speak that me opponents backstage anyways they just until I might zone of it's about went but the foot you're mine journey and so it's like whatever and he was there and he was just staring straight at me with no emotion and even walking every had a big smile on his face he didn't get phased by the crowd no matter face them you know it obviously comes from a tough Jim on a tough background you see in the shape he was in he was ready to for you ready to kill and I don't I even bought him clothes he didn't speak English I didn't it didn't work out my favor that was speaking to him because he didn't understand what I'm saying anyway so and what were you saying - I can't even remember to be honest mad [ __ ] yeah I won't repeat in there we got a Kindle but the light yellows long maybe along the line yeah do you find that works that you get into your opponent's head when you talked out no I'm not even I just be myself Jeremy I don't know I'm about the for each I mean that's that's just the way I for you in origin I mean it's not all on my own there and I'm just being myself and whatever I feel in the moment that I see my staring at me I don't know whatever happens happens you know is there a feeling of fear when you go into the cage for yourself yeah of course man I'm fighting for me Louie I don't want to get hurt that I want to get beat I don't want to get humiliated I want to get clipped you can name money great for your enemy and the plant like Tyson was clipped you know Ali was clipped Leakey Anatomy and George was clipped loads are great for so I clip them hurt and I'm not gonna say raw and well I'm just above all of them I have the ability to be knocked ill and if I'm not if I'm not afraid that's when I'll get afraid I thought fear keeps me alone I mean like fear keeps me sharp and that fear keeps my defensive mechanism switched on and you see people going in and after day-lewis they say I just wasn't nervous this time I was a bit lazy I was a bit yeah I didn't we you know I do get nervous I do got a fear but I fear it keeps me alive and keeps me sharp on it's almost a positive people obviously they associate fear with a bad thing like a negative term but actually it's a but if I'm not afraid I'm afraid Jeremy would say you're more or less because like you have a family now as well I mean this is a it's really going to work and I mean you can't think your family when you're doing your 9 to 5 job right all the time you know yeah it clicked the building you're going home but in a four years I'm not just thinking of my family all the time but I'm training in the gym I'm pushing myself I'm making weight obviously my family's in the back of my head but when it's wound or moment no time and it's just it's a job at the end of the day it's a for you and I have to just get in there and fully and figure out a way to weigh in and there's no emotion there's no nothing else or an end strategy win and that's it and stay safe observable and most known Irish folders here they get bored nobody people know where you actually would like it where it all came from like how did you first I'll kick your in the kick pots must know and then all of a sudden you get you doing MMA like however that held that all come about well I stare at the on the kick box and I'm like points point and then the karate and stuff years ago when I was a kid and yeah I hope that again held up again yeah well where again where are you come from they would be like a pretty rough enough areas and I mean and exactly you know it's the north and I see your double engine I mean so around Table seven around this me feel very short Street great Street flats I work there it's great yeah it's great better than I was when I was growing up so yeah you up to d7 yeah you put on all zeros these have represented Europe but again I would have been like a roof no ferry and if you didn't know how to fully you're gonna find it the hard way con a job and I would have been another like for eats and confrontation that would have been always a lot of tension around the area and you'd be afraid to walk up to the shop on your own or you'll be always just afraid that something's gonna pop off anytime Japanese have any brothers or sisters yeah I have an Oliver a I've known where to it as well no not really no and alright so you got into the cake box in anyway domain and then I just joined the local the closest James in me Hills which is like a five minute walk up the road join down as a kid and then I started competing straightaway gentleman there within a bit under a year in points point yeah and that was the first thing I started competing in I just I got hooked on it I love the competition I loved everything about and then I just kept cake box in four years and go hook them did you getting these three points then when you were doing your points void people I'm sure people that your end of the end of those voids for a lot faster than you so yeah yeah I wasn't points for industry to come across like SVG and kick box all day till I was about eighteen and then I've done the World Championships and I lost I'm a big there's a lot of fan politics and cake box and anime and so I've heard if you're wearing the favorite you're probably just end the Blues and turning on the scorecards and I was fighting an English lad and it was for English judges on an English referee and I was just thinking before even when they would think and how am I gonna win this for each and I mean yeah and in kickboxing head guards and gloves and all that kind of stuff and it was actually a full-contact for you and I won before he hands down when I lost the decision and even my opponent came up and was like man you're wound up for you and that was the World Championships I meant so much to me enough I just lost heart and I was like this is stupidest sport you know you put so much into it it's so much trainer Mooney effort and then you lose on the decision that's Kurupt them on open the podium getting a bronze medal and he's getting a gold medal and that's just like what the you know what is that and he even admitted it to me's coaches were like I was a robbery you know I mean I just said you know I'm not going to a sport we're finishing people is more like easier to there's more options I can choke them submit them then smaller gloves are always hard on my head if I hit someone with them smaller gloves I just don't think they'll be able to stand there with me or something so I put me morning on that day and then I just go obsessed with learning new arts of a healthy for you grapple I never respected problem before I grapple yeah I always taught like no one would be able to take me down I mean what are you gonna just drag me to the floor hardly yeah that's what I've laid and grappled someone as their 60k their strength reprieve see hockey and carry on the show as well and you said that he said like he thought he was gonna transition very easy and then once you straighten the grappling with Lee obviously thought he was like to hold up the grapple to next tangent a holder sent there or I've done a few BJJ classes I'm like you get put into a pretzel and you just are laughing oh just start laughing I was like oh my god like I'm so vulnerable and like just think like I'm like oh I'm big boy like I should be able to like like that fellas not gonna be able take me out then get turned into a pretzel and then you're just like oh [ __ ] it's like thoughtfully could actually kill me if you want to there's no like there's levels to everything Jimmy and so like if there's always gonna be someone better than you especially at jujitsu and me hummons doing great tomorrow he's actually rang me they're only about 15 minutes ago he's in the finals now and the a diseases yeah maybe tree people today two black belts submitted two black belts today in the eighties in Amsterdam and he's in the finals right now as we speak against a high level black belt again and he's gone over here on his own off his arm back is that beast allegedly hummons the name that remember the name because a few years you're gonna be like [ __ ] he just blew over now where's your I mean do you feel like because SVG Ireland it's like just so well known for having the gtp and the practitioners is the top bring you on very fast did you learn very quick yeah it was funny because like my first MMA for you I was in the kickboxing gym I wasn't in SPG and I learned had to do jujitsu on YouTube I used to autumn it wasn't even usual to him now what's the name [ __ ] them not 10th planet it was some website wasn't even so you crazy sort of break now I wasn't it was more like Eddie Bravo spoof believing up not any Brad was a grew up our garden so I don't have to do so on the internet basically and I'd learn the middle and then I go practice on whoever's in the gym and he would know what I was doing I was just trying to learn as much as I could had me forcefully I mean first MMA for you I thought I was gonna just kick box and there take him down my arm Burnham I didn't even know where I was the owners just wing it stop out zone now I was in England actually it was in Newcastle against and you cost a lot it was a setup for you they sent me up to Leo's and I went over and in the window job son you sure about you check it it was mad yeah I'm about like 1890 and a little fat belly um you know smile eaten Burger King the day before the 14 are eating lasagna the day of the week and the car is a car blow it's fun yeah or use drinking ball it's a cookie and chocolate Molly my Twitter mint now aren't you know Kristen Kennedy sorry how's that going for you cuz you're on the way down to 155 yeah yeah I wasn't for him I just don't think I'd be able to do what I'm doing him and John Connery or the oiler strength Institute the two of them the red haired fella yeah yeah no man he's been with me along to him he's my strength trainer I'm with a cardio trainer and then obviously Tristan's my nutritionist and there he comes here and cooks for me the week at a fully and make sure everything is on perfect point you tell them what you like or is you just feel like here yeah yeah I tell them I don't like basically I mean I just and then he just gives me what thumbs like it's not well I mean if I had more dizzy bleeding burger that's what I do anything about of ammo major I mean once I make the way I don't care what he puts on front of me and all his field is top of the range so toilets cost for them they sort of stuffed away their like everything is down to the last leg crime it's just so so a professional obviously it is a professional scoreboard like it the way they at the everyone's treating it it's something to be admired you know it was not everyone treats it like that sure I mean again as I said I sit up there on the speech earlier you know like everyone comes into this and does their own thing right that's fine but the wounds are the most discipline that the wounds they end up on top and that's it and the rest get filtered it along the way you see a few people win a few fights and that's it they think they've made or they win a few quid and that's it and they think them no you haven't you mean it's it's not over until it's over until you walk away from the sport and you see that a lot with hops here for years they fall off because they're getting too comfortable with the launch style you have now or got a new book awake lying under this song on it and you're like you just lost that discipline that you're hired at the start when you had Newton joining me right now I think it's important to keep that even though I'm doing well in Bellator yeah I'm still gonna have to frame a million dollar Newton and I have no time I'm broke and I'm I'm gonna keep that in my head because you can get caught up in like out of money now I don't have the [ __ ] toilet anymore I don't have to wake up early and train I'll go to the gym late I'll only do one session a day and you see people doing that and then they lose and I don't want to ever beat up for you do you think they'll be hurt hard to keep that like level head because like so many people are like praising you all the time that it could be easy to maybe I never get caught up in it to be honest I've said a million times there's nothing special about me and I'll say that until the day I die I don't go home and you're human Oh monie better everybody are for you that's it everything else we're all good you're probably better near everything else but we wanna have a photo op here probably loose that's it yeah well I'm equal to everyone else remain and I think people just pull athletes and the foyers on a pedestal and that's an like footballers and folk and I've seen and they're blown these people up cuz there are famous or you've a mural back and she ripped that build now I said I was too old for the buildings it is ripped what's called obviously Groupon there was like you know fight and fight on the brain but it was there any other sport that you were interested in or do you have any heat you know sporting heroes when you're growing up no more toys I'm gonna be in the only one that was my idol when I was a kid and I remember being like a boy later her memory wall was very young and I remember he was on the telly I remember I just froze and he's sitting around looking at the telly tank and this is him this is a movie this isn't real it was like a whole a clip of him just sparking people and people dropping and the trevor bayne okie undergo he just kept falling down and I was like this isn't real I mean this is obviously fake i staged the WWF and then obviously when i was real founder was real as I hope that's he's the most incredible foyer I've ever seen I'm back the ennop see he was Jimmy he was the most feared man of the world and then obviously I got into his philosophy and learned a bit more course tomorrow and the mentality and I like the way he trained you were so intense and so it was never winning the fruits on scorecards right that was a bell no I'm gonna get him in order and now gentlemen as soon as the stairs what for you it's not like pick your shots and move around and if he went past the second round everyone was nearly like God it's weird you know and that was my mentality at the start and I like to kind of ploy to Santa to the sport I'm there well it just goes show with toys but you know there's no room in the game for complacency you know he end up getting complacent you getting a bit distracted he was very badly going it's you know I mean yeah I'm like having that level head is like very very important you know I mean and what's called I can sort of see in yourself like you don't want to let a coach to the judges scorecards I mean you like to let it get a torn inside arrow I know you were like actually apologize the other way to score I mean the at the end I said okay well for eating is harder than it looks you know and the people may look and say oh look tired man it's hard and you know I mean they're literally trying to get this bloke over there I had a man spark last week and all I was convinced this is Dom Mel but he was actually very good and it's like it's it's difficult to finish these people all the time and you know he had his attributes he was good hitting me and moving around and defending the neck and he had no bleeding neck the choke I said that a few weeks ago on insulin again I went to the judges and I didn't wanted to go through the judges I wanted a first-round knockout and sometimes just doesn't go out outrage now boy look getting the hand raised is the most important thing about for him winning is everything a foreign name was ready jail when they were called let's score cos you wanna know but the only debt was that we were upstairs in the locker room in my opinion rich is smaller moon his foot and the decision went against him and we were all like what the hell what did you just thinkin and the only doubt in my mind was like imagine that you just do this now gentleman again like they're gonna get him that but I actually think I watching the fight back a few times I wonder three rounds they give her a split what it was that trio was a Shinjo was actually really funny about that oh you got to say it's a Crosby Crosby judge everyone's gone when he actually went against me I was like well I might be you went against means instead of homie because people would say that's it me yours cost me was this does my only ever split decision or not actually sorry for that Thomas Cosby yes it was George like a million points so like I'm actually and actually yeah it sort of breaks your heart that like you know me George a million fights and then like still you know he gets wrong you know man it's one of those things where it's like Georgian and fightin is something that likely needs to be looked up funny enough yeah I don't know if I'm allowed to say listen up I think he made a mistake because there was an email sent I actually see the emcee called out the other way around by mistake he didn't give the round to him he actually gave the round to me afterwards but then MC called it out wrong so when he went to the scorecards it was actually the emcee that's announced it wrong understand yeah it was it was twenty nine twenty eight unanimous decision I think that was a mistake on the scorecard now I only found out it and I don't like Pro X our tours there's like that well Lucas tell me one more hand was raised I don't care I really don't care and I mean like I mean at the end of the day boy any means win that's a I'd rather I'd rather win a bad decision than lose a good one you don't mean and I mean look at small and he wound up for you he wound up for you and then he lost now what that wasn't a great noise or whatever yeah the ticket the thing is about the sport now as well not only do you have to be like it's all it's more than just fightin or just one and you have to do it in store the also have to be able to do everything off the more you can I feel like a lot of like like yourself are actually doing a really good job yeah like what sort of feedback can you get them from the way you're actually like walking the walk talking to talk and delivering on the big biggest I'm literally just being myself and I don't believe in trying to be on don't even try look people I don't like I know thank you [ __ ] to see like Colby Covington and all these donkeys man under acting like eejits and they're trying to make a name for themselves and they're more interested in attention and that's fine that's ground Bullock at the end of the day when he's retired people are gonna look back his legacy in his career and below he was a down or that loudly says he's not funny he's cream G and that's why if you want to be remembered like that do you I think respect variable yourself a Nazi and then but if they like yet kill if they don't really get killed I mean I don't care I mean so you're gonna put all the 155 pounders all blast now unnoticed at Bellator is there anyone who you particularly wanna get your hands up I'm sure I'm back I said that last week he's a fifteen and one former world champion we're a different organization I went to the for you in London he fought Harry brazier I used to chase the Terry brazier for you back in the day and vomit just cause he had the belts and that's the only reason I really wanted for him is you have the tool belt well right now and I've met Terry a few Clemson's and he's a champion man it's hard not to like him he's actually sound and I I've talked to him about the times and I actually think he's a decent lad he's a noise bloke and there but when I went to that for I thought he was gonna win and then he didn't the young man saw Dannette dominated and I was a poor and for you just held him down did food call and or sitting there a cage it's gonna frustrate thinking like I'd love to just smack him around just cause he was so like it just wrestle [ __ ] them the whole round and I don't look for is that the aura like wrestling is a beautiful sport or when you're just holding someone down until nothing that's not funny those that you're in charm but no it's not it's this ridiculous carry on I mean don't get me wrong I love wrestling if you're holding a man down for 15 minutes and you're happy about that but do rest and focus and do a different sport you have to fight some sort of age and I mean whether it's advanced to a position or a ground pound or something you know me and so yeah but that's a for you and again that's a legit way he's fifteen and one he hasn't been beaten years he held a world title in a different organization yeah and that's the way you're not mentioned in the organization mention the donors there or the malls price would be just nothing who who died English that I think he's my partner is nothing no come here I need to ask you right you're gonna you're now aim 455 pounds yeah and like how meticulous you're gonna period or hit now cuz I know you hit 159 there yeah like I think like what on a scale vault 100 held like exactly diamonds at the being over there going here if you want then he crepes you understand then hotel I just relax and all that groove and then for a well not not get the last one was already to be honest I think am because you're looking fresh enough when you said it go look it's hard it's always hard but I've never missed we ever I never missed I've never even money under the scale it's checked and missed and gone but like I've always made way always and I always think it's just more of a more in setting that I was afraid to go from 170 to 154 if the first one because I was thinking I don't know how many bodies gonna react to this yeah but last week I did like a very easy court and I made 159 I was like Jess that was like I was grand to walk down to the scales and me nutritionist was happy he actually said I could make one for divorce yeah believe it you said on stage he said that to me he's they going to get you to 145 and I was like I don't know about that name Federer way you're like those crazy not crazy all right 155 I reckon definitely next time yes and how did you feel like yeah matchup against pitbull yeah I think is good everyone's good boy I don't think he's that good again people put these people on the pedestal on his name on his this and this time he's the chump whatever everyone's a champ for a minute and then someone else is the champ and Pedro is gonna be him watch Pedro is gonna be him you'll see that if you ask about yeah Pedro was 100% gonna be him that man is a absolute nightmare yeah I'm telling in there it's funny because they again he comes under the scene of people so huge this guy and it's only because we known from the gym and his work ethic and we see it people don't respect it but then he's been on a winning streak and it was finding the champion more like he's bad people are still downs and I hear was you know it doesn't matter if you know who he is or not you wait to see that man he's gonna be in his face from the Bell until until it's over I'm I truly believe that Pedro is gonna smoke him let's go down marched her in Connecticut yeah big one big so that's gonna be a serious yeah and he deserves well he's one of the hardest-working human beings I've ever seen I'm on the mat with him every day my mind at work he puts in to the gym is is next and honest to god he's a crafty what's the pose like an SPG now it's moment like just really blown up like obviously Connors packing the scene like I mean you got the new the monster a new gym like well like what's like owning every day now brilliant they're like a minute from the SPG we come from the little gentleman with like cold showers and they can out dump and no heat into what we are right now we're in a facility where there's like two floors but a training room so on it there's dorms there's beds and you know I mean you get lost in the place nearly am so I'm just very grateful for that and obviously the teams at the ground as well and there's a lot of Fighters that travel over now and stay in the dorm so every day I go into the gym there's new bodies to learn from and train where and it's brilliant experiences have so many different bodies not as newcomers Bucknell flat oh I'm having him in the gym always adds today to the energy of the room jeremy and again seeing his work ethic from what he was to what he is to where he's gonna go now it's great and doesn't leave zoos all open this great house George yes pray for us as well journey because we're so close to him where'd you see him go next gee who'd you see him for it next I don't know to be honest I mean I mean there's so many options where I would love to see him get to be a boy again to be honest and I think a fully focused corner is unbeatable I really think that I'm a I mean I think the could be for is very good what I don't it wasn't a dominant for you around it was actually a pretty closer watch the boy again I think people watch the ones and come you have to really watch it much the tour around and watch it he would program Connor didn't 100% around but like I think you just have a fully focused corner if the corner shows up that for Cerrone in the last voice shows up okay pika beams doing doubles maps in my Holland was enough yeah that's that's what I'd like to see the Cubs already lined up to 420 Ferguson you see - what do you spectrum from that because that's key boy the season just drags in there host now five rounds yeah he is incredible I thought he like you know what no one's had an answer for that if you were to forty could be a would you try for him and take his chin off his face the rest of them are right there again it's a flea I mean you can't annoying Akio you can't you know you can you can wrestle and tussle and do what you want and it can go either way or you can ball up your fists and Troy take his head off and if he hits the deck then job don't John that's the way I think when I'm going to a foyer I think that's the the safest bet I mean it's not consumer now and that there's no question about you know that's that's more as my philosophy if you absolutely and Kyra times million for coming on and the chap are you having to finish off I just wanted a thanks man absolute n what the door thanks very much