IN DEPTH | EPISODE 05 | JORDAN BRADSHAW
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David sits down with C-Mac MMA fighter Jordan Bradshaw.
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MMA In Depth episode 5 with Jordan Bradshaw at CMAC MMA, recorded shortly after Ireland’s Four Nations team tournament. Bradshaw describes splitting gold with teammate Keith Kelly at both Nationals and Four Nations after they agreed not to flee the bracket, his two rear naked choke finishes, and the emotional team weekend when Ross returned from a drought with two dominant wins. He reflects on amateur losses as learning experiences, his “I am” mindset tattoo after avenging a weak-minded defeat, starting MMA at about 16 after being jumped by six or seven people, and long partnerships with Keith Kelly and Ross Quearney. He praises coaches Alex and Debbie for supporting him at Four Nations after he fought alone at the Super Cup, recalls a brief cage-side moment with Patrick Doran when he carried the flag, and discusses 2022 IMMAF European Championships (second place), being on the first Four Nations and Super Cup teams, same-day weigh-ins around 64.5 kg, and plans for at least 25 amateur bouts before turning pro. Looking ahead, he expects to fight Patrick Doran on Cage Conflict in about two weeks, train in Thailand in January–February–March after the coming year, and eventually chase IMMAF Worlds/Euros while improving wrestling, jiu-jitsu, and violent finishing.
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[Music] okay so i'm in cmac today with jordan bradshaw just back from the four nations obviously he shared a golden key uh how did that feel for the second time to get to the end of it happened at the nationals and now it's happened how does it feel to get to the end of a tournament like that and share that moment with teammate well me and keith minky they're my inspiring partners my and training partners my general partners will suck me in keith keith and ross are me and russ just the way it always has been so for me and keith to do to get to that point of an international tournament national tournament twice it's i don't know it's a powerful thing like and as an individual foyer and as a teammate they like we're with each other since kids like so many are great mates outside the gym so we're trying to do an extra training sessions and then going in like after we took you down man wake up and texting each other away couldn't what you're eating i'm only having a mineral i'm having an algorithm it's what you eat gentlemen like just little things like that and then the fact that we both splitting the most thing at prestigiously because i am a gentleman then foreign i got lucky getting the boy and then keto and they got the two wins we split the gold medal because obviously we're not going to flee and then the fact that we got to do it again at the four nations keith had a really tough week then he didn't have to fight the second time so now he fought two so it was good that we split the goal again like it's it wasn't good like it's unbelievable john i mean it's the best feeling in the world and as keith i said it's not it's no i wouldn't even say jordan wright it's john bradshaw and keith kelly and i'd never put me name on it it's always just been the both of us yeah the the cmak medal is what it is exactly it's over there tell me it's over there that's where she'll be along the team like like my wife like he doesn't seem like not without this club yeah no 100 obviously you were very impressive and you got two finishes two rare naked chokes how did that feel because a couple of your last fights have gone to decision and you've been saying you want to start finishing people again because you had had been earlier on in your career so how did field get to the finishes on a stage like that because they were very nice the first one i seen was very nice and so was the second yeah it was um it was meant for a different but actually for the whole tournament uh we have like we knew the names if we were fighting and then i think it was like the night before the tournament yeah man had an injury so we had to fight someone else so we didn't really care like just once i got the freak that's earlier that mattered so it was just saying going to the same going and just get the job done and i know me like say like me losses are like people look at me wrestling gentlemen so i'm glad that i got to showcase me wrestling and showcase me jiu jitsu and that was the main thing like well no i don't really care about records like at the end of the day like everything i do is for professional mma like i know every like i'm such a believer in the law of attraction like a deep believer in it and i wrote on my wall or writing me now like at the start every year only gonna put on a performance only gonna be happy on my performance it's not about winning like if we got to a tree around more like if we got we got like a rather to be happy with me perform and stand to not be happy to get me because at the end of the day it's just professional that's all the main priority with everything yeah because obviously going forward uh like the losses will benefit you then going forward and like you said uh you've been put against wrestlers and that's where some of your losses come from so you then now obviously you've learned from then and it looks like you've turned the corner now to using your wrestling and your jiu-jitsu to get to win i find it kind of interesting what you said about writing it down that's kind of like what people say like you write something on the wall you write something in the mirror so you're kind of mad like the first thing you see when you wake up is is that and then that's always in your mind exactly it's the first thing i wake up like after the after that it was for you i think like i shouldn't have fought that for you to be honest because like it was weak minded everything you know just gone wrong but i'm glad i fought it because i learned of army amateur career and army experience that was the most i learned and that day i um when i got the avengers against it i was in the nationals i went out i wrote i got a tattoo and i wrote it on myself we made a tattoo gun and i wrote i am as the first thing i wrote in my wallet saying like oh yeah i'm jordan bradshaw oh yeah i'm this i am this yet me it's what i believe in so yeah no how did it feel to avenge that last after obviously you said obviously you weren't in the right mindset there was obviously stuff going on in your personal life you did you felt like you felt like you didn't want to be there so once you lost that and you knew you weren't in that right mindset did you want to run that back obviously it was just by pure chance you got put against exactly exactly but would you have wanted to run that back or would you have went on and just learned the lesson from it uh to be honest with you it didn't really care if we run it back on jeremy and uh at the end of the day it's all about the next performance about being able to be calm comfortable and in control of inside decades underneath those lights and all that sound the only thing that matters is the personal frontie they'll hurt them they'll punish them but anyway possible getting that egg and that's what amateurs are and people look at amateur differently maybe like because as everyone's alex says debbie says the way we grow up it's about experience like like i'm in this to the end like german but it wasn't for that level for you i think me moyenca would have been probably the same as it was tell me and i wouldn't have wanted to be more confident at the time but so i'm glad i'm grateful definitely happened to me life yeah no that's good and it's good the way that's because sometimes when you ask people like what did they learn from the most obviously you've taken a huge amount of experience from that and then going forward it's only going to benefit you and you've been doing well so we've talked about kind of where you are at now we're going to circle back and we'll come back to it full circle um how long ago did you start and why did you start mma and we started when i was around 16 years old and i started mma because i wanted to learn how to defend myself because one day i was walking home i was going on holiday the next day with me teammates and our families i was just walking home one day and i got punched out not gonna lie about six or seven people just got stood on got punched around not gonna lie but like just straightforward and i want to learn how to defend myself so i text the boys and first person i expired was key though literally jump man with first person inspired was keith and keith was only a little as a little stump john main and it was on two years older than quito so both was having a clear how to throw a dagger on but and ever since then it seemed like we've just been doing all the novice tournaments all the same shows together all grappling tournaments together you know amateur show now representing each other on the international level and it's going to keep going until we get to world toils yeah no 100 there is a good togetherness in this gym obviously this is the second time i've been here and uh with the performance at four nation and and one person i was actually really really proud of as well obviously i was proud of all you but ross obviously since he's come back he hadn't won a fight and then he went out and he he put on clinics he put on two clinics so oh you got in trouble like sorry if you're joking either no you're okay we got we actually got we got in when ross won like there's like a barrier around the cage like it was like they were always gone mad on ross one because people only even seem like and the people you know they give you know technique and you know fighting ross is probably one of the most gifted strikers gifted foyers you could say you could ever see like gentlemen and that boy them two for he showcased it and i think it was just the fact that we knew it and he done it we were all just so true from something it was just oh man that weekend was just it was so powerful and they'll never forget as long as they live yeah no so well at least you were able to finish then the tournament even though you got in trouble um yeah because no home actually in the home where he blessed put it actually up on his story as well he goes he's probably one of the best strikers i've ever ever ever struck with and then obviously since he came back he fought gary and carl who were notorious for the wrestling and so obviously they would have lost it so you see what goes on behind the scenes that's why obviously that meant so much to you yes yeah of course like and then when you go with rowling ross like if you'll see like ross's early wins yeah like he pulls off these mad finishes like my finger like it was a simulation to a guillotine at chaos few years ago and like that was like my first ever mma show i ever seen live i don't know like ross caroney was the first photo i've ever seen and the fact that he pulled off that and like within under a minute john man like was ross was always the person that might advise me to go to seem like to be as good as him to be john i mean it was always russ like i know keith points his head on me alex points the head on me alex this all the boys and seemed like what ross was just i just thought ross was just so good so his iq in mixed martial arts was unbelievable and i'm glad i'm sure from that he got to showcase it on the holy stage you know i was glad for all all three to come away from there and the whole team had performed great performance obviously alex and debs were over there with you uh which must have been good for them to go and see the 3e and then to oversee the other fighters as well and i could actually see between sinead and debs they looked like to have a really good relationship over there as well what was it like having alex and debs over at four nations with you of course it was great because when i went to the super cup that no one from my team or no coaches were there with me so always by myself so the fact that i have alex and debbie there with me was unbelievable like or like with endless appreciation like what they want for them they do they did everything for me they do everything for me and they always will and like was to them like i'm not without alex and debbie don't mean really i'm eternally grateful for having them in me lloyd from montevideo for me and by having them there it was just a boundless gentleman and it was just i'm not sure of any unseen about the moment we had at the end when russ won like we just had like it was like a wolf pack don't mean coming together after you don't we just successful red yeah john i mean it was just it was a good feeling it was a great feeling that they were there in our corners being there for every moment yeah no it looked good it looked like there was togetherness between obvious and then obviously with the 5e being from cmac though i can i can't even put into words what i think the feelings and emotion would be because i haven't fought but i could you could just see in ali how proud everyone was of each other and so was everyone else from ireland you've seen the comments you've seen everything so like a massive congratulations to you and the team here yeah i was gonna say to see at the four nations when um when i got the flag because i was chuffed because we even knew like we sourced out the division so like keto and alex and deb and ross were all exhausted out like so they're saying if we win this and keto ends that means we'd have to follow you and keto doesn't have to flee so we'd split the goal again and then you said word for word that's what happened and that that did what happened and then ross did exactly what what we all said was happening it was just crazy but then see when i got the flag off and i have to tell you i have to tell you this honestly it was one of the best moments in my life in myanmar career like but no one got her on her corridor no one got in a car and i'm going about way and paddy the body right he was there for about five to ten minutes of the whole weekend yeah the whole entire weekend so the second i got the crap off key though jumped the cage grabbed the flag off quito and he's the first person i see probably the buddy and i go paddy and he's just there looking around saying who's this fellow calling me and he always see me in the cage and i've done this dance yeah i don't believe that and he just goes well don't let no it was just but it was a good little moment but oh god i'm playing records nowadays everyone has their phones all the time but they didn't have that force cool but that but the thing is you will always remember that like it's on record that's a core moment for you and your career going forward like especially with someone like him the heist he's at now are you guys you have to resign new ufc contract country gentlemen so obviously he's going to be getting more than 12 and 12 now i'd say so i'm going to say it to him in a few years remember that tonight yeah see and and it's good like because rcm mma is still only quite young in the likes of ireland and stuff like that you can you see these stories coming around like you can see max lally put up a picture with mcgregor when he was like a kid literally literally yeah and it's actually cool that's why i like following your career keith's career ross's career gary rudy's career all these amateurs is you can see the the actual career so um i actually find it more interesting now than the pros the not that i find more interesting i find interesting following from the start so when you first started like obviously you came in to learn to defend yourself was actually going and fighting professionally ever in your mind uh what or was it once you had the first fight did you even plan on having a fight or was you were convinced by ross to fight or something um honestly i don't know honestly it was actually crazy it was just honestly it was just going with the flow and i was a little kid going through school and oh you're a fighter i mean i like i think i craved all that attention i always craved everyone's opinion of me really to be honest and then i think that was like was close to the levels for you and i started getting what i was looking i don't give a bollocks about what anyone says about me no comments no no no you don't like me you hate me i don't care like at the end of the day it's my life i'm in control of it and that's all that matters so i mean and i think that was probably the biggest that was the biggest thing down there because when i look after you now like i don't look after anything as if it's about people or it's about money like ointment fighting because i like pointing i love pointing like i love haunting people yeah i like john man like i'm avoiding you see all these foyers i can each around i mean i'll never judge another player you have more respect the second you're getting like heads whether you win you're lose you get a dig you get some mate i don't care once you get in that cage you have more respect so i mean and everyone's entitled to their own opinion but we don't give a bollocks what to say about me because i'm in charge of my my future with the president join me and whatever happened in the past is the past and it's all about experiences but like seeing my boy on instagram it's like it's called shield of beautiful violence so i mean because i love violence and obviously i don't think more than a few questions i mean like this is a sport tell me and like would kill the fellow i'm against then i have to shake hands on have a bear with them gentlemen hook it out like you tell me and it has been hard to respect and that's the best thing about mixed martial arts no and i actually like what you said there about what people think about you that or like before you kind of crave the attention which is kind of you've kind of gone the opposite now like you said you don't really you don't really care what people think because at the end of the day the only person who's going to progress your career or help your career is you because i find this support this sport very fickle at times i've talked to a few fighters after their losses and a lot of fighters have said thanks for the text because when you're winning i don't know if you've ever had this everyone's texting your phone's hopping over but then once you lose the text has become less and less i only said that to my best mate day-to-day bradley and we always want to walk with me dog and the amount of people texting me right the amount of people takes me but when you lose don't mean when you lose you know it's not that you know who your friends are but or not you know who's there if you're only that selfie by lux but you just know the power of winning and losing you i mean it's it's just it's a completely like it's a completely different type of feeling towards other people and it's it's you're in control of it are you actually let it affect your life gentlemen like some people some people take serious breaks because the laws of oh you're shy for your tell me you know or you show you like oh you show you this issue that like at the end of the day like you have to learn to just so that you let go in there and every other or else you can feel up your energy yeah embrace it and just go out there and go again you lose again so uh you gotta lose again so you lose again so uh but you keep going tell me yeah the worst thing is people that say that are people who are sitting on the couch out of shape and probably only watch mma as a casual kind of thing and don't realize the hard work that goes into it and if you put if they were put in front of you or anybody they probably wouldn't last 20 seconds in it exactly um you've had a very decorated career so far like you've er you've been to the item and obviously you've been to the ims talk us through that experience what that meant to you and what you felt you learned from it um my first time maths was 2018 and i got like a 40 and second amber um against like romanian foyer and he's like he's like i think he's like three and one now tell me and he's pro he's pronoun and the fact like looking at see where he is and where i'm at it's just it's crazy like that i know you've done that to him and the experience of wine maps that as i said i know i represent jordan bradshaw and i represent seem like but to represent ireland it's just it's a one and one in a million feel and representing your country especially if you know its history and all actually but the fact that you go out there and you beat another country and you beat another four year you're honored don't mean like you're honored representing ireland and that's hardly currently clear about john i mean when you're over there in them tournaments but over in a different country you have all these oils and you have all these toilet experiences on it that's what it's there for you you're going against the different type of buddies johnny and i know you have the likes of voyage voters and english warriors that are close to home but then you're getting all these matches from romania from poland from bahrain from russia you're getting all this high level butchering wrestling you and you're just you're learning so much and the only map is definitely definitely the best area place if you want to learn as an amateur male 4 i'll say that day and day oh because you're constantly fighting now fair enough you're not underneath the light and everyone's around your drink and saying go on yeah okay well that should tell me well under two different environments to be around but to progress as mixed martial arts jiu-jitsu wrestling stroke and all that other foyers imaf is definitely the best rule yeah no it is and obviously you've got the super cup now the four nations and you've been privileged you were on the first team to go to the super cup the first team for the four nations how does that make you feel as a fighter you've essentially made history by being the first team and obviously uh runners-up in the super cup and like the hall you took home from the four nations is amazing how does it feel to be in the first ones to make history like that yeah we've just just made a lot of i feel i'm grateful because i was in the first four nations in the fourth super cup was in the first nationals to mainland to win two of them and become second in the super cup was unbelievable like what like in the next 10 20 30 40 50 years like i'm gonna be like as like what we're known for i'm gonna be in the very first one like the very first one the list of all the ones that are gonna come because like the new generation like to see how level like the whole level they are already like you should see the people in ignite 16 and 17 year olds man killers my killers they get butchered me all day long and they're just they're unbelievable i can't wait to see them to progress in their amateur careers and pro as well but i just as i said the super cup i'm on the super cup was probably i know the fornation was an unbelievable experience but the super cup was just phenomenal like and i know the perks of it getting collected and to tell me and it's like it was probable the fact that i was on an international it was the biggest stage i mean and the for me as a i like to move around a lot like kids tell me so it was annoying me at heads like an octagon was unbelievable it was yield so i got the minor learner and showcased me scales like make sure i can and i'm dead like of all them fighting me amateur career live i had to pick one what was my most enjoyable even though i lost was the mexican flea the mexican decision yeah i lost 29 28 like but it was easily that was my most enjoyable of army 18 foot and my amateur career is not over yeah like i want to we want to have at least 25 towards the void so if it's possible and then balance the toyland balance the toy line get out give an elbow get an elbow jump in and then be ready for a pro yeah no i actually like so are you planning on going over thailand to train then in in a couple of years or no it's definitely definitely definitely definitely january february march on going over the toilets after the coming year yeah yeah yeah like oh i just it's i just the only thing it's what i get up in the morning farm i'm just thinking a toy land going on aboard a beach getting up every morning because i work now i work 40 hours a week and i come to train and work trying five six days a week like everyone else but all they have to go to toyland train three times a day eat healthy fields beyond me found an hour twice an hour or two hours a day being around beautiful water beautiful wind and hivc everything just you're just the ground and you're like you're healing yourself your mind is getting stronger everything is just like and i'll be conditioning me strengthening additional will be phenomenal because you're going against toys man johnny and they're brutal but their hard work and hard work and don't i mean and i'll learn a lot a lot over there yeah no because you actually see it i think aaron mcdonald went over there recently for a couple of weeks as well obviously that's they are the true epitome of a kind of fighter's lifestyle aren't they over there and that's obviously what you're you're in this because you want the fighter's lifestyle you're not an instagram fighter you're not uh like you don't showboat you want this because this is how you want to live your life yeah like honestly i don't give a whacks about social media i hate it like and i wish that it didn't existed but at the end of the day this is new generation this is how it exists and you have to so that you join in you join in you have to tag along if you want to progress in life people always say to me why do you have so many for following so many like all i do is follow my toy pages mma pages jiu jitsu pages and like i'd say that 50 or if not 60 that's who i'm following because i just i want to flow to instagram i want to see someone out on the last like i want to see like a new technique and i'm sending to the boys a new knee a new elbow a new combo jump in and that's what we think social media is good for to learn new so i mean of course the promoting side of it and that i'm only learning now that's why i'm here like of course we're here to progress yourself when you're here help me out gentlemen i'll be forever grateful for yourself yeah so i mean and at the end of the day that that's what you want to you want to get to all the needed organizations you want to get an email in the world and this is this is the only way to do it john i mean it's not what like i know it is is what you know and how challenges are of course so i mean and but in some cases it's not what you know it's here you know and i think promotion is definitely one of the best keys to to get in places then like because at the way i look at it if you've got two fighters over similar and it is it isn't right the way this kind of works i think if you've two fighters of just say one slightly better than the other but this leads more on social media and he's more out there yeah they're probably going to go for the guy that's slightly less better just because it'll pull in numbers because essentially even though it's is a sport and a lifestyle it's actually a business to the likes of the ufc and stuff so they want to be drawing numbers they're going to see employers out there like say for instance they have like 40 40 sponsors like that's probably over exaggerative i'd say about 10 20 and then you see the likes of so like then you see the likes of keith or johnny it would have about six gentlemen yeah they're saying and but this fellow would have like this fella would not even be a fraction of quito's talent do you want me to saying like but it's because he has like 10 10 200 ml the followers keto has joined me and it's getting their brand out there gentlemen but at the end of the day keto would be the better investment do you get me yeah well they don't realize that though yeah because this all sure short term exactly and short terms and that's it that's with social media and the internet that's the way to take everyone has short memories it's all short short term games no one thinks it's a long game except for the likes of fighters who are in for the long haul yourself key and and many others scattered around the country um yeah so we've gone through the imas we've gone through how fat to be at the super cup um actually there's one thing weighing in for the super cup did you have to do the same as the imax weighing in day by day how hard is that and because you fought a fed away in those competitions really same day wait for you further away and the day before road fully panther mate because and i definitely know me bodybuilding now like why cutting woods and all et cetera and all that et cetera the bonus with the super cup there was a 90 degrees on it so like i mean today so i was chilling so i woke i was like 64.5 the forcefully 64.5 second for you and then the tour for you which is this doesn't make any sense at all i had a nando's that day and then i weighed in at 64.5 on the last day and i'm like this doesn't make sense at all but like that's just the way me way it was i mean it just fluctuates crazy but yeah it does like you just you have to stick to it you have to discipline yourself you have you can't be like oh i want to fight my throwing a lot of chocolate bars i'm not the winner for you i'm gonna have a bottle of coke like you can't like this is a tournament you have to stay consistent like for the three days four days four days whatever it may be i mean until you're out of the tournament then you can feast or until you win the tournament then you feast but it is it's it's a good discipline to have because when you're fighting on a show you only have to make weight and then you're floating on the one foot you need to go and need your brains out the next day i mean so that's why i think fighting same day is so much more beneficial and all these fighters that caught like 10 20 uh not 20 years ago 10 kilo for the same day they'll still feel that yeah they'll fail out in their in their fleet like and then but that's why i think the only map it's most fairest and most learned and prosperous and i'm a germany yeah no i like that it shows the discipline and the mindset of someone to be able to do the same they weigh in and then obviously i think it's kind of fair as well because a lot of people aren't cutting huge amounts of weight because like you said they're going to feel it so you kind of have more of a level playing field as well because some people call crazy amounts to come down even at amateur i've noticed one or two fighters and you're just like why would you do that for amateur yeah like it's not like fair enough day before like people you kind of kill yourself a little bit but like because if you have 24 hours to regenerate and you could either get loads of carbs into your loads the electrolutegy and your body could perform for maybe but you may only feel it the day after johnny and but same day is a bit crazy like we've seen people caught seven eight kilos for the same day which is eating crazy man like johnny and for the same day like that's day before toy should tell me but first cutting that meal the same day and then going out performing you have to like you have to eat afterwards like you have about i'd say you have about two three hours until you're free yeah so i mean so you actually haven't got enough time for your body to be on like performance where jumping real efficient for the fee so you actually have to be walking around around the way you have to be in training around two three kilos off fighting me yeah two men and but ups for the four nations up to the super couple a good walk around around 67 they own pads doing mma rounds jumping doing great like getting your body used to being in that type of way so you can perform but yeah that's just my mom's definitely the best rule i'm living in yeah no so you've done the imf's the super cup are you going to be looking to try and go to them again next year to be honest with you we'd love to have 24 tour depots before pro but i want to finish out there if if me if me and quito can go to the worlds in the euros if they do happen i would love if both of us can go we don't integrate i'd love to go to the worlds do a world championship and when i was maybe end the next year midnight show probably the end of next year looking towards probable or really even probably the year after two hours it depends on me learning like the thing about me you have all these kids and as the people on novices like they're just fast learners like and the thing about me i'll help me handle boy and say oh yeah i'm a slow learner gentlemen it took me so many years and seemed like just to get across right so i mean literally i've got abuse just from getting but that's the way it seemed like tell me you can't be sensitive to me you have to be you have to just learn and take it on the chain and progress and if you don't get a route you go again it took me so many years just to get the grocery and that's at the end of the day that's all about just learning yeah no so you've done really well so far and then hopefully you'll get to these this year and then obviously you're gonna have thailand next year and you actually talked about being in the big cage premier fc actually have a big cage would that be something that interests you yeah amount of people that's after sending me that i don't know among the people that they're sending me they're saying you can move around of course i'd look into that but i had a i think this doesn't mean 940 this year this is me 920 this year so i think i'm gonna i think when i fight i'm pointing out two weeks against paddy so after this i'm probably gonna have august but i wanna gym like i know i'm fighting all the time and that's probably the most important bit but you also have to come back to train and yeah you have to improve and train you have to get better and trying and like joining i love sparring all the boys every single night but you have to be like you have to be in the back your head you're pointing soon so you can't get injured you can't you can't try new gentlemen because you're because you're so ready to fight your take practice on all the mechanics for that fight yeah and you have to stay used to but i want to be able to show you new like jumping off the wall superman punches out the world you know me and it's just something mighty that you can practice and train and you can focus on getting better and trying and just relax and then go again in september go again in november and then christmas see what happens yeah because obviously you're not looking past your next opponent which is uh paddy doran on cage conflict yeah exactly uh it's the first time in a while you actually haven't got arrested how are you feeling about this being a and a striking affair um potentially yeah it's going to be a very good for you really i'm really really looking forward to it because it is going to be a good fee a really really good fee that's all i'm going to say i can't wait to see obviously uh um i haven't been there i'm going to go up there because obviously keith's going to be there i know you kee who else is on the couch me keith ross and higgs yes big higgs yeah four of us so looking forward to are you looking forward to that yeah and like i said with key earlier you've got a good record on the show i think it's 12-1 or something like that how does it feel to go to the shows together with the team because you actually seem to when you when there's one of these on the card it seems to be always there seems to be more than one uzi he's all go how does it feel going up together of course as i said we're a wolf pack you know what i mean so the more was the better more of us the better like i've opened the shelves when it's just me fighting yeah like the just me pointing and it's okay but of course you'd like your teammates pointing on the same cards because they trying to join me and so but i'd love the one card i love to fight on but if i'm not fighting on it curse is when if it's in dublin if it's in orlando alex is alex's pro debut so i mean if you don't know what alexander or solomon is like you're a sap so i mean alexander sullivan is like he's the best in my opinion he's the best charming and frank he's the most oh if you don't know alex get to know yeah that's all i can say yeah no he's well well known within the country and i'm going to ask you one or two questions more obviously as uh what does being a fighter mean to you when someone says the word fighter what words would you describe a fight like what words would you use violent um vicious um respect so i mean that that's what i think people look at you differently because you can take a dig or you can give a dick you can you're not afraid of blood or you're not afraid of breaking an arm or breaking their own arm like you're willing to take that risk i think they're the three words and i think most people in this world are they're unfair of fighting and they don't look at it they think oh people say oh you're crazy and then you have other people are you sorry what's up daughter girlfriend respectfully blah blah and then you have people or like the most people that i have respect for is when other fighters come up to me and say well done so i mean that that's what that's what makes me feel great is when other fighters tell me like well done jordan you've done good because they've been in the moment they've done it all so for them to say it means more than the average yeah yeah because they've never liked myself and other people have never been in that situation so we can say well done but when it comes from your peer and it's the same for me if someone says to me you're doing a good job what you're doing that would mean a lot to me because obviously they're in the same realm and then i understand they've been there and they know what to do last question if i asked key earlier what would you want people to remember you by true fighting like if there was a word or a phrase or something hmm definitely violent yeah i know it definitely or just it probably would be violent because i know there's going to be a ton for him like i know people aren't going to remember you for how much your career because when you go pro really that's what people remember your boy and my pro crew hasn't even started yet jumping hasn't even begun so i'm really looking forward to going pro but it's not for a long time you know what i mean i have a lot to improve on a lot to get better on and i will get better on it like i'm going to get better as a foyer looking forward to it i'm waiting because i you've got a really good high kick and you caught at the super cup you caught one one and i'm just waiting for you to get the knockout on one of them one day one day and knock out he's going to come out hey quick and feel it like i just i can feel it it's going to come i thought i had your man there in the far nations but he slows back orders a picture it landed clean but he slowly sparked tommy and he defended a gold league which he stops the impact of hitting his head in the temple but my favorite if i had to i've had to pick one thing to knock someone else it would definitely be an elbow yeah yeah i think i'd want to knock someone out and elbow yeah there's been quite a few uh really good ones over the years who was it it was a map around against diego sanchez yeah unbelievable but my favorite player like at the minute would probably be jonathan hegarty yeah jonathan hagerty he's just just a sickle like he's he's like i've had to pick one more for him he's violent john man they can't see him he's constant on the goal he doesn't take a break attacking the only time he takes attacking is when he's defending and then he's coming straight back and just to hurt you every second every combo yeah violent yeah no thank you so much for your time i look at the best of luck in your upcoming fight at cage conflict and uh thank you so much thank you very much thank you no problem cheers you