Denis Frimpong interview

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Oh. Okay, so once again, I'm joined by one of the OGs of the channel, aka the old channel fans, do you remember anyone remembers? Um, Mr. Dennis Ring Pong. He was one of the first people that I actually done an in-person interview with with my little camera and my little thing…

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Oh. Okay, so once again, I'm joined by one of the OGs of the channel, aka the old channel fans, do you remember anyone remembers? Um, Mr. Dennis Ring Pong. He was one of the first people that I actually done an in-person interview with with my little camera and my little thing up in DC age. Remember that day? Um. We go way, way back and I followed his career and it's been a joy to follow. There's been ups and downs, there's been highs and lows and but at the minute, he's in really, really good form. Albeit, he did lose his last fight, but you can just see it didn't bother him by the way he took the loss. And every time I talk to him, he's in good spirits. So, how are you? Thank you very much for joining me. How are you feeling? How's life? And how's fatherhood and and everything? How are you adapting to it? Does it get better every day? >> Yeah, it gets as as as your son gets older, you know, your first son, it gets better every day, to be honest. The older he gets, the more he starts being He's walking around now. He's doing his own thing. You can bring him to like the playground, like walking walking him to the playground. He's starting to try and talk. He's starting to like develop personality. So, yeah, extremely rewarding. Um. Obviously, uh, in terms of what, you know, sort of matters in the career end of things, uh, things didn't go our way the last time. Uh. I got knocked out pretty bad. Um. The first time I've ever been knocked out. Like, obviously, I got knocked out by Gokhan, but it wasn't like I wasn't out. This is the first time I've ever been like actually like like I teleported. Do you know what I mean? Like, I I I walked out and it was like a sick walkout in Berlin and all. Had the whole crowd chanting the lot, yeah. Walked out. And then we're getting in the cage, they do the announcement in the blue corner, in the red corner. And then next thing, I'm in I'm in the back room in medical and like me gloves are off and I've like me wraps are off and I'm like I like I was in the middle of a conversation with me coach and then I was just gone, Yo, what? Why am I here like? Why am I back here? And then I've just looked at me coach, and me coach is just like And I was like, "Oh, no. No." And then I'm just going, "What was it at least a good knockout? Like, please tell me it was at least a good knockout." And he goes, "Yeah, he just [ __ ] just split the guard a bit off a kick." And then obviously I've gone watched it back later on and been like, "Wow, like I actually got [ __ ] sparkoed, you know?" Um Yeah, it was mad experience like, but yeah, it was it's it's just one of them, you know, obviously. You you dust yourself off. Um the only real [ __ ] thing about that whole situation was um the medical suspension. So, obviously I like being active and I don't like taking time off. I'd rather the [ __ ] just submitted me cuz at least then it's like I can go again in a couple weeks. [ __ ] 90-day medical suspension and that. >> [sighs] >> No, yeah. So, yeah, obviously now uh I've got to wait a little bit longer to get another fight, but I'm already sort of looking at when I'm looking to get back out, so. >> Yeah, and and that's good. And what I liked about was in the like in the press conference and all and and the content I see with you after is you take losses really really well cuz it's part of the game and I think sometimes with sometimes with your bravado and stuff that you go in with, sometimes a lot of it might get thrown back at you. But no matter what gets thrown at you or this that and the other, you seem to take it very well. Is that something that you've matured into or is that something that you've always been a part of? Does it come back from like being a competitor at BJJ or or where does it come from? Is it or is it just your natural behavior? >> Just think like uh Don't get me wrong like uh in the like moments afterwards when you first like it sucks ass, mate. You know, I was fuming. I was like, "Fuck. Fuck." But at the end of the day, man, like how you feel about something that happened in the past is not going to change what happened. You know what I mean? You can only change your demeanor and your sort of viewpoint on it going forward. Um not only that, but losses happen. You know, um I've had worse and more losses happen in my life before I ever started martial arts at One BJJ. Um you know, losses Everyone has losses in their lives, whether it's losing a loved one, whether it's [ __ ] you know, losing a job, losing whatever, losing a house, losing anything, anything, losing something sentimental to you. Do you know what I mean? Like losses are going to happen. Uh the difference is with MMA losses, it's like, yeah, your ego takes a dump because you've you've lost a fight to to another guy, but end of the day, like I've I've I've won loads of fights. I've done that to someone else and also, like I get the chance in a few months to go and get a win back. You know, like if you lose a loved one, that's that's it. You don't get them back. They're gone. That's it. That's the end of that. Um so, there's bigger losses that you can suffer in life than just losing an MMA contest cuz guess what? In like 2 3 weeks, no one gives a [ __ ] Everyone's watching the UFC. Everyone's watching the next event, the next octagon, the next PFL event, whatever the [ __ ] else, you know, um UFC's on this weekend, I believe. You know, after that, like everyone was [ __ ] talking about the the Germany game that same night in the World Cup. Do you know what I mean? Like so, people just move on. Like no one no one's asked. The only one that like will really be asked about losing that fight in a week or two is you if you let it affect you in that way, but like I mean, like we spoke off um off the recording beforehand, like I come home from Berlin and you know, my my 1-year-old son didn't look at me any differently. You know what I mean? He was excited to see me home. He's not looking at me like, "Oh, yeah, dad's lost a fight now, so he's now lost some sort of love." Do you know what I mean? So, I don't really give a [ __ ] Uh My wife still loves me, still cares about me. You know, my dad My dad and my sister were there at the fight. I seen them after the fight. They were so proud of me. You know what I mean? Like doing what I'm doing. Um so, yeah, that They're the only real sort of people that I care about their opinion. I don't really care about the opinions of random trolls on the internet that are going to go, "Oh, [ __ ] you. Yeah, glad you got knocked out." And it's like, you know, they they've never even had the balls to step into a gym, let alone step into a cage in front of 17,000 people, you know? >> Yeah, and they're usually faceless accounts, and they're usually accounts that have no followers, and they're usually people like that that have never stepped into it. Like, I obviously I've been a part of the Irish scene and stuff like that, and I always I look at it like I don't look at fighters any differently when they lose, because I like you and Mac for example. Obviously that's way back when when I first started. And you are two two of my closest friends not to sort of way, and then if I'm watching that fight now, let's say, then like I have to put everything kind of aside, the friendship, and just go like whoever wins this I'm going to congratulate, and I'm going to be there for the person who lost as well. Because I know it's Like I said, there's bigger losses in life, and loss is part of the game, but the way you handle it I I thought was very well. But one question, when you go back, obviously like I said, right after fight you're disappointed, you're [ __ ] this, [ __ ] that. I think you spent some time over there yourself and your wife and looked like you enjoyed yourself and and had some time away. But when you came back to your son after having that a defeat, like obviously your your emotions go from high to low, and then you come back and see him. Like what's it? Does that just make you forget everything that just happened that night, and you're just like >> Yeah, like mate Like you know, you just have to look at things from a context view, and like I'm I'm so blessed. I get to like I don't have to wake up on Monday and go to an office, you know, I'm sat here with you on a Wednesday afternoon, I'm chilling. I'm going to finish this up. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to come home. I'm going to pick me son up from nursery. Do you know what I mean? Like, I've got a blessed life. I got to go over to Berlin, [ __ ] fighting from the 70,000 people in front of me family, you know, um like I said, whole arena like singing my walkout song as I come out, cheering me, video recording me. Uh asking me for photos. You know what I mean? Like, and being in Berlin, I've never got to go to Berlin, you know, and getting to go to Berlin for that and then, you know, like it like you said, staying there with me wife a couple days afterwards, going to the Berghain, you know, like [ __ ] something that 10 years ago I would have thought, yeah, it'd be sick to go to the Berghain. Weird place. Absolutely [ __ ] weird place. Would I go again? [ __ ] I don't know, like bit bit bit weird, but bizarre. Um but yeah, [ __ ] Do you know what I mean? I'm I'm living a good life, like, I can't I can't really fault it. And uh yeah, man, like you like you say, got back home, saw me son and and like you don't really care then about the result of a fight, you know, you're like, I come home, I'm healthy. Um me son's good. He's still growing, you know, and it's like there's more important things to life than than just I'll I'll be honest, like, you know, maybe when I first started MMA, I put so much weight on it. Uh on like fighting and fights. And yeah, you know, maybe that drove me to be where I am now and to train as hard as I am. And and I do like when I have a fight, I put everything into it, but there is also more to life than a single fight or even a fight career, you know, like, I'm going to be done when I'm maybe 40 max. And and then there's a whole, you know, or hopefully 40 plus years after that to come, you know what I mean? So, yeah, it's um but people put too much weight on losses. I just see it as like a lesson that I'm going to take forward, you know? >> Yeah, no, I I like it. And you know, when you were saying you were in Berlin, so what I love in Berlin, the little to not the little light man, the little green man, the little I have a magnet. Well, I think my ex-girlfriend has it somewhere. But that little I used to get everywhere I go I get a little magnet. It's a little man for the the lights, and I think he's brilliant. I don't know exactly what he's called, but Berlin is actually a really, really nice place. There was, like you said, there's some strange passing and there's some but it's >> weird place. No, it's it's a weird It's a weird place. I'm I'm I'm not going to lie, like it was it was fun, but weird. And you can tell that like it's just a place that like probably a lot of people move to thinking, "Yeah, this is fun." And then they just get lost in it because it's easy to get lost in that 24/7 party sort of >> Yeah. >> No, but um yeah, it was a nice city though as a whole. Good food. Um yeah. >> Yeah, no, so So, you were saying, obviously you had the 90 days suspension. That is just from competing, is it? Or is it also from training, head sparring, or stuff like that? Or is it just competing? And what are the 90 days up? When do you think you'll be back in? >> Yeah, so I believe it was 6 weeks of I was recommended 6 to 8 weeks, mainly because obviously I got knocked out for like I think it was probably over 30, 40 seconds, you know? Um it was a face plant knockout. Um I lost like a significant portion of time of my memory. Um so, the recommendation was because obviously I'd got knocked out in November as well. It was an 8-week period of no head contact. Um that includes in sparring and stuff as well. So, I like 3, 4 weeks where I did basically couldn't train at all cuz it even my heart rate's not meant to be going higher than X amount and all that. Um I'm only just got of getting back into just starting to train now. No head contact, just a bit of no light stuff, just getting myself back into the flow of things. Um, and then a 90-day suspension where I can't fight, obviously. Um, I was basically told cuz I fought end of June, but uh I couldn't fight until at least the end of October, which is like fair enough. Um, probably for the best anyway. Um, and look, I don't know, maybe like the high levels of activity that I've had might have had an effect on why it's been so hard to make the weight, why I've had to do these big weight cuts because obviously you're doing it back-to-back-to-back. Um, bodies aren't designed to be doing stuff like that. And then, obviously just getting back, back, back, and not really ever taking a bit of time out. So, it was nice to take a bit of time out now. You know, went on a little holiday a couple weeks ago with the family. I've got another holiday booked for next month now uh away. Um, so, yeah, just it's it's nice to just have a bit of down time for once. And then, I'll worry about getting back in. I'm looking at November, but I'm not I'm not going to rush it. I'm going to get back into my flow. And then, once I'm in a flow, getting an 8-week to 10-week campaign again, you know, and uh whoever they put in front of me is getting absolutely run through. That's all I'm going to say. So, >> I I would not like to be the the next opponent of yours, especially like that. It's good though to to break that you've obviously it's kind of been forced upon you, but like you said, you were actually finding the benefits of it as well. Do you think it's obviously you're not going to take breaks as long, but is it something you might look at in the future instead of doing back-to-back camps is in between taking two or three weeks, especially like you said, you've got the wife, you've got the family, and kind of enjoying a bit of down time rather than, like you said, putting your body through the stress of getting weight, then you're putting not not that you're putting huge on but then you're doing that process all over again cuz like you said that can't be good for the body. Is a break something you're going to look at going forward so you're not doing back-to-back camps maybe or is it just kind of you're taking it now because it's forced upon you? >> Mainly I'm taking because it's forced upon me. I'll be honest if I'd have [ __ ] it like I said if I'd have got submitted and you know even if the result was the same and I lost and I got submitted I'd probably be I'd been looking at fighting in September. Um if I'd have been if I'd have won the fight I'd have been looking to get a straight way. Do you know what I mean? Like it's the sort of make hay while the sun shining kind of attitude. And you know having been knocked and got medically suspended I can't then fight and I can't really train properly. Uh the sun ain't shining for a little bit. So I'm I am glad that I had that mentality beforehand so I got those fights in. Um because like you like that like any any time you know you can get an injury or something can happen which I suppose like a concussion is a brain injury. Um where you then are not able to fight as often as you would like. Uh I've already still already have two fights this year. I would like to get another one and then depending on how that one goes maybe even a a second one so like I I still like to get like three four fights in in the year. Um obviously that would require the third fight. You know my next fight would have to be come out take no damage kind of thing. Um it all it all sort of depends on a few different factors but yeah like I I I'm not going to stop the momentum of the train you know like now that I've developed a a habit of having fights often. I've had a little break now. Now I can bash out another three four fights before I have another break you know so yeah. >> Yeah so so it's going to be back back to the activity and back to war. Um we spoke we spoke uh it was actually when yourself and Will when you were both training together at one stage and you were saying one stage you were looking at obviously you want the lightweight title run. That's what you're going to get back on. You were thinking of obviously potentially if if you were to go on and win that going to welterweight. What kind of plans do you have now? Do they have they changed? Obviously I'm assuming you still want that run towards the the lightweight title but has has any of your plans changed or or or what's your kind of plans going forward now? >> So, yeah, I was seeing like after the loss directly after the loss I I did believe and I do believe that the reason that that knockout happened like that was because I had a big weight cut to do. Um anyone who's seen my vlog on YouTube I cut 7.2 kilos I believe it was the night before. So, on Thursday night till Friday morning about fight I had 7.2 kilos to lose which is a big weight cut to do. Don't think I was fully rehydrated to where I could have been. And but yeah, that is what it is. You take a lesson from that. Obviously in the direct aftermath I thought that means I have to move up now. It's getting harder to cut the weight but I also think maybe the factor was having these back-to-back weight cuts back-to-back fights as well. Maybe that's why my body is was almost like sent into shock and couldn't lose the weight. I was dieting like mad for weeks before the fight and just the weight wasn't coming off me so um I'm going to re-evaluate. My next fight I'm going to be looking for a catchweight fight maybe 73 74 kilo. Um there's a lot of good options at those sort of weights anyway. And uh yeah, going to be looking for that kind of a fight, you know, uh not going to be looking to do back-to-back 70s again, I don't think. But for now, I think I can still make 70. It's just that I'm going to need to be a bit more disciplined and a bit less maybe like 70-70 or maybe like just having a little bit more of a break. I can still be an active but just not being like you know, I'm fighting again in 3 months kind of thing cuz it doesn't give me enough time and and then definitely in between the fights like this time I've been sort of reversed dieting. Um after the fight, so I have I've had me a couple days stuff me face, but then um I'm a bit more disciplined when it comes to like slowly building the calories back up each week where I've put weight back on, but your body, I don't know what scientifically your body's doing, but yeah, your body is a bit more used to then when you cut the calories back down, you'll start losing the weight rather than your body just being like, "Oh, what the [ __ ] going on?" Do you know what I mean? >> Yeah, no, I want to say I see like that obviously you've got nutritionists on board as well obviously who's very, very, very good. Um when you obviously you you with yourself and him will will come up with a plan and he'll probably say as well like maybe that the back-to-back cuts aren't good. But when you look at like like I said, I've been following you since you kind of came in. You were the BJJ kind guy. You came in relatively late to MMA people would say. Um but like the I've I've mentioned this a couple of times, you and now obviously Brian Manning is someone who's joined you on Octagon and he's made a bit of a wave there. He's getting reviews and all as well. For [snorts] two people that were told and especially kind of yourself that like, "Oh, Joe, it might be too late late to join MMA." And look at the waves that especially you've made cuz you were the first one not you weren't the first one in Octagon, but you were the first one making the waves. Then Brian comes along, makes the waves. I I I at Charlie's birthday party a couple of weeks ago. Do you think that age is just a number? If you can If you dedicate yourself like look at what have you done. Arguably you've got kind of two in Octagon you've got the most traction and uh for Irish fighters you've probably got the most traction as well just because the amount of views and kind of landscape that Octagon goes out to. >> Yeah, um I think everyone's got their own path. There's more than one path usually to the top of a mountain. Some are a bit harder. Um you know, Francis Ngannou started late too and look what he's done. Um obviously it just means that like when you start a bit later like like yourself he hasn't maybe had the opportunity to have 25 30 amateur fights when you're 18 19 20 21 to build your experience up and all that kind of business. It just means you've you've got to sort of go eight to 10 amateur fights bash them out like I bash them out in like a year and a little bit. Eight fights and then get your experience go pro and then just bash them fights out as well. You know what I mean? Just be active. Um that's just the only difference. I I I I don't really believe in this whole thing of like I mean I fought people that have been doing it years and years and years since they were younger and [ __ ] battered them. You know what I mean? So I do think age is just a number. It just obviously means that maybe there's certain things I'm going to have to approach differently than someone that started when they were 14 15. But I also think that like you know, if me personally like I know what I was like as a as a teenager if I'd have started MMA when I was like 12 13 maybe by the time I'm 21 and I start finding parties and this and that, you know, maybe I I get dragged off course and things are almost sort of like I I see a lot of guys like that as well. That started when they were young and and things are almost sort of taken for granted. It's almost like I've just always been in the gym. Do you know what I mean? Like like I don't even think they really appreciate the blessing that they have of being in the gym and getting to do this. I think they're just like, "Oh, I just don't know any any different. This is just what I've always done." Do you know what I mean? So, you're just doing it almost like subconsciously. Um but it's very easy to get dragged off uh course in terms of you'll still go to the gym, but a lot of stuff that you should be doing outside of the gym, like not going out and doing certain things when you're out and, you know, um staying disciplined in your diet and your stretching and warming up properly, cooling down properly, doing your physio, you know, like all all the small things. Um I think when you started when you're older, you have to be so on those things to compete with the guys that have been doing it longer than you that you almost are a bit more uh not even durable, but a bit more disciplined and set on what you want to do, you know? I've I've had me time when I was younger. I had me little parties and I I I used MMA to sort of get me out of that lifestyle. So, I've already done that. I don't need I don't feel like I'm missing out on it when I'm being disciplined and being in the gym and I'm missing this person's birthday party or this night out or this gig. I don't feel like I'm missing out cuz I'm like, "Ah, [ __ ] it's just going to be the same [ __ ] it's always been." You know, you're going to go out, you're going to end up in someone's kitchen at [ __ ] 12:00 p.m. and we're going to be having the same [ __ ] 10 conversations that we've had the last few weekends. And yeah, like I just yeah, I feel like it's almost a yeah, it's a bit of a superpower in that way, but it's also a superpower having done it from when you're young. You know, it's just different horses for courses, we'll say. >> Yeah, it depends how people approach it as well. And I like what you said there. There's like there's a lot of fighters that you probably would have seen, I would have seen in the past 4 and 1/2 5 years since I've been kind of in the scene that have just they get to like that 18 19 20 and you're thinking this guy could be like go UFC this and then all of a sudden it's like where's so-and-so gone? I was like oh they start partying, they started this and that. And then like you said >> you know, lost interest in it, didn't didn't want to stay in the grind, didn't trust the process, maybe lost a fight to a guy that's been doing it 2 years and then was like oh yeah, [ __ ] that, you know what I mean? Like if I'm losing to this guy like I'm never going to make it, you know, I've been doing it for [ __ ] ages. I've been doing it since you know So yeah, like you know, it's it's one of them. I just think me and Brian have obviously been smashing in Octagon. Will Fleury obviously probably started a bit later himself as well, you know, um And yeah, we've we've we've gone and and done our thing in Octagon. Octagon have given us that platform to sort of build ourselves. Um and like you say, I think outside of uh the UFC, we probably are the biggest sort of Irish names. Obviously, you got a few in Cage Warriors and stuff like that like your Max Lallys, you got like Darragh Kelly, um >> Paul McAp, Paul Hughes obviously. >> Paul Hughes, yeah, you know, so you got a few names outside as well, but yeah, we're up there, you know, like I'd say we're up there in the in the mix in terms of name volume and how many people know of us and know us. Um But yeah, like it's uh it's definitely it's definitely a big platform is Octagon, you know, in terms of European MMA for sure. >> Yeah, it is. And what I like you were talking there earlier about people wanting to come get autographs and and stuff off you and especially with the German crowd cuz me and you have talked before and every time you even fight someone from their own country, you actually divide that country set of fans for that fighter is what I've noticed. A lot of people will go with you and then a lot of people also will go with the hometown fighter. Number one, how do you do it? And number two, how does it feel when you go to the likes of Germany and stuff? I know obviously some might be for you and some might be against you, but all you do get total you do seem to get total respect from from the people in general. What's it like going and having to sign autographs, having like a like a thousands of Germans cheering your name? What's that kind of feeling like? >> [ __ ] mad to be honest cuz like when I started and like you were there, you know, you you were there at the at the very beginning is when I sort of started. I didn't I I wouldn't have If you'd asked me then like, "How do you think the next 5 years Emre's going to go?" I probably wouldn't have said I'm going to be fighting in octagon. Didn't even know what octagon was back then. I probably wouldn't have said that I was going to be a household name in German MMA. Um you know, even 2 years ago I probably would have been like, "Oh." When I fought Robin Frank, it was definitely it was a definitive like people were definitely cheering him. It was his hometown and not cheering me. And then slowly, yeah, like I started winning them over. I do believe a big part of it is as well, a lot of German fighters maybe that represent and train and fight in Germany aren't actually really German, you know, like Arjan not really a German, he's Albanian, isn't he? And yeah, of course like divided the fans. I don't think I divided German fans. I think I had the German fans and he had the Albanian fans and there's a lot of Albanians in Germany. Um Nico Samsonidse again, Samsonidse is not really a German name, it's Georgian. He's a Georgian fighter. He lives in Germany, he trains in Germany, half German. But I think a lot of Germans maybe don't see him as fully as a German. Um and then you know, to name a few others like, uh even Gokhan, you know, like, speaks German, lives in Austria, and all that, but he's Turkish, he walks out with Turkish flag. Do you know what I mean? So, I think that's a big part of it is that, like, a lot of the German fighters aren't actually we'll say pure-blooded Germans. Um and maybe even the fact of it as well that they don't walk out with a German flag, they walk out with their you know, parents' nationality flag, which is, like, fair enough. Like, I'm not, you know, putting that down. You know, you can identify with whatever culture you most identify with. Um but I think that may be what divides them as well. Um and also, I just think, like, my sort of sense of humor um and the way I sell my fights crosses the border of national uh support, if that makes sense, you know? So, I might not be German. I might not even speak German, but they still go, "Ah, he's a funny [ __ ] though, he is. And he brings exciting fights, and he sells the fights. Do you know what I mean?" So, >> Yeah, uh uh like you said, his sense of humor is kind of worldwide. Like, your humor, you're going to get a lot more people who would be kind of be like you, kind of so, but they might not put it out there the way you do it. They might be doing it where they're in the in the room with the boys, so having jokes, but obviously, you're putting the [ __ ] out there, and they're like, "Did he say what we are saying? But we say it inside where no one can hear. This motherfucker's doing it all over the internet." But, a question about Wilder, actually, when we were talking about people, I mentioned you and Brian, but like, what Wilder's done, like, Wilder's I want to say late 30s, but I think Wilder didn't get the respect he deserves for a while. Are you finally glad to see like, he's got the two belts, he's looking for the third. Obviously, he has to defend his lightweight. Um he was saying obviously there was a pullout and thing. Do you think that there has been a bit of [ __ ] there? Do you think this was a chance on and that thing, or do you think >> Bro, as soon as I seen it, yeah, I was like Daniel score, yeah, pulled out. And then I was like, in me head, I was like, I bet they're going to replace him with someone that trains with him. And lo and behold, Makhmud Muradov, who hasn't had a fight for ages, has been saying on podcast ages ago that he'd jump in. I don't know whether it Makhmud Muradov just really doesn't like Daniel Sbor, maybe he injured him on purpose and knew that he You know what I mean? I don't know whether you know, Sbor knew that he was never going to fight in the first place and the team have sort of colluded in order to I I don't know. But, I do think I do think that there was a bit of [ __ ] there. You know. >> Yeah. >> I love a conspiracy theory. But, I mean, stranger things in MMA have happened. That's all I'm saying. Daniel, stranger things in MMA have happened. >> Yeah, no, it hasn't. I like that. To be fair, Will, he didn't look happy when he made the video, but he said he's going to he's going to go for it anyway. Like, that's that's Will Flooring. I think he was someone When he went into the likes of Askren when he's at PFL, I interviewed him. I want to say he's 12 and two or something. And I was like, man, just like the people that weigh in the middleweight and all so, why aren't people getting behind him? But, it just seems to be like a a national country thing. Unless people are entrenched in MMA, they don't really know other than Conor McGregor, maybe Ian Garry and Paul Hughes. We won't go into the Ian Garry or thing. Like, but a lot of people wouldn't know underneath that. We won't go into the Ian Garry thing. We don't have to go >> No, let's go into No, let's go into the Ian Garry thing >> Right. I I'll tell you cuz this is I've got to see how long I have left on this. I've got 4 minutes and 17 seconds before this cuts off. So, let's see what we can get in 4 minutes and 17 seconds. >> I'll make it very simple. Ian Garry is a cook and a little [ __ ] And if he sees this, just know that you are a little [ __ ] and you'll do nothing anyway when you see me. Um And then obviously got Paul Hughes, big respect for Paul Hughes. Um he's obviously injured at the moment. He's coming back soon. Um he's doing bits. Obviously people people know who he is, and I believe he'll be a world champion at some point. And then Conor McGregor, like [ __ ] hell, like sort of is the household name, isn't it, in MMA globally, not just in Ireland, but especially in Ireland. But I mean some of his actions recently maybe have uh soured the opinions of Irish people towards MMA as a whole, potentially. But yeah. >> Yeah, I I I think so. I think Conor McGregor's one of those the faces the faces of figures that people either love or hate. Um [snorts] I wouldn't be particularly mad about him. I cuz I think that the scene has kind of moved on, and sometimes for a while it was like he was trying to take away from what was there. And look, but but then again a lot of I probably wouldn't be here, and a lot of fighters wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him paving the way. As much as I like I I don't understand the people that were waiting for him to get like hurt or injured, and then they're straight online, and it's like the fact that you waited months and months for a guy to lose shows more about your character. Whether you like him or not, I'm like, "Okay, it is what it is." Ian Garry, I think he's very like he's a very good fighter, but he's so unlikable he makes himself so unlikable, bro. Like that's the problem. We don't working class people don't resonate with him. Like he's up talking, "Oh, I got my hands dirty cuz I had to clean a roof." Bro, do you know what's going on in this Do you know how many people are homeless? How many people would love to have a [ __ ] job cleaning a roof right now to have it and then put roof over their head? Your your hands got dirty. Shut up, bro. Like shut Like >> He's a knob. He's a He's a proper knobhead, like. >> The But the thing is, he's so good, and that's the They just need to show him up. Like Bryce Mitchell said, "Once like two strikes, three strikes. I'm not watching his interviews. I'm just watching fights from now on." Cuz like no matter what people say, he is a top-class fighter, but it's just >> Yeah, but you will watch his interviews. You will watch his interviews because you'll be like, "Oh, watch this knob head saying now like do you know what I mean?" >> I think though there is a massive overreaction. I was going down through YouTube, right? And one of the things was a picture of Jeffrey Epstein and then it had like Ian Garry as well as Jeffrey Epstein. I said, "Here lads, did you just read some of those files, bro? Did you read like some Yeah. And then I was just like some of them it was like who's the biggest weirdo in the UFC and it had like Ian Garry, Conor McGregor, Jon Jones or someone else and you know everyone's going for Ian Garry there. It's like you pick a you pick a weird uh few people, but look, there is about 2 or 3 minutes left on this interview. So, I'm going to let you go. Is there anything you want to say before you go or anything you want to shout out? I want to thank you so much for your time. I want to wish you best luck in your next fight going forward and I congratulations on everything you have with the wife, the child and and everything that you do have because that sounds so much so fulfilling in your life right now that it seems to not have changed your character, but you're a little bit lighter than you were. It's not the same way you're not as as heavy on the >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> the trash talk. >> Let's be like let's be honest. I needed that in my life cuz it was getting very heavy and very dark like, you know, uh in terms of some of the trash talk was probably a bit Do you know what I mean? But [ __ ] hell like we have to live and learn, but yeah, just shout out all the fans. Shout out all the like got a [ __ ] lot of support after the loss, you know, a lot of messages of support and hoping that I'll come back and all that. And I will be back later here. Um keep an eye out. I'm trying to get on to Octagon now to sort something out. I want the good opponent. I'm not like trying to I don't know, make it easier for myself now. I still want to show I still know I'm the best in the division and I just got caught. So, yeah, slowly but surely. Shout out everyone. Uh shout out the sponsors that kept me going. Shout out the family Um for being there, being me rock. And shout out big Dave Farrell, aka Fanzu MMA, aka the don of [ __ ]