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What is up and welcome to the latest Energized Show! Irish MMA legend Paddy Holohan returns to the show to discuss Politics in Irish MMA, McGregor vs Poirier update & all the latest MMA craic. Check it out and Like & Subscribe for more Energized videos! Follow us on: Instagram…

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On an Energized Show episode recorded in April 2021, Paddy Holohan joins hosts Ross and Russell for a wide-ranging conversation that blends Irish politics with the state of Irish MMA. Holohan, described as an author, politician, and owner of SBG Double 24, reflects on a difficult pandemic year, council work, housing policy, and skepticism toward government messaging. He argues Irish MMA was built top-down from UFC success rather than a grassroots national scene, says regulations like brain scans and blood tests have made amateur fights harder to get despite being necessary, and calls for more collaboration between OIMA, GAMMA, gyms, and coaches. He supports bigger gyms helping smaller ones recover, fixed regional shows in Dublin, Cork, Galway, and Belfast, and fundraising models so talent is not excluded by cost. Holohan says competing abroad through OIMA can cost around €2,500 and that coaches pay the same fees as athletes. He laments cancellations of Clan Wars and Cage Legacy Fighting Championship, names rising Irish prospects including Ian Machado Garry, Dean Barry, Jay Harris, Josh Greene, and Glenn McVeigh, and discusses Conor McGregor vs Dustin Poirier 3 on 10 July 2021, the charity dispute, and possible replacements such as Tony Ferguson or Justin Gaethje. The hosts also preview UFC and Bellator cards and briefly discuss Jake Paul vs Ben Askren.

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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] okay what's going on guys and welcome to a brand new episode of energized ross introduce the guest man we have author politician owner of spg double 24 the first irishman in ufc history to get a submission win it's paddy the hooligan hulen paddy how are you doing how are you getting on i didn't notice that i know you're one myself oil responder to get a submission i know i was the first irishman to get a ufc win on irish soil yeah but you're the first original to get a submission in the ufc and no one can take that away from you ever you can't take away the first right you can't take away the floor so tell him that he'll thought he already had one two we'll take that fair play again any time any time you have jade wilson down there on your corners i was about to call you james that's the misses don't worry about it shout out to her it's all good yeah patty we were just saying off here that it's been a year since we had you on the show last night like so many things have changed over the past year but like uh how have you found the last year and how he coping with him um here's a mad story i imagine he turned around last year on your show and talked about all of the stuff that's happening now and i started like usually being on my team and he's gone off the head a little bit you know so we had to be talking about vaccine passports and and everything that's been true and yeah i think it's my thing it's been a heavy year we really do i think it's been a a year for education for people and it's opened a lot it's open to not only just kind of the idea of people's if understanding how to kind of go away from negative information and misinformation and but not only that to be able to find the difference between two and i think that is a skill in itself and if those aren't going to tell the youth to do that would be what i would say them to do with these days is learn the skill to be able to tell the difference between what is real and what is not real and don't don't always just look at that person and say they know what they're talking about so i'm definitely gonna listen to them because um we talk about experts in martial arts and there's a lot of charlatans martial arts to get away with being called experts so uh yeah ross [Laughter] you know what i mean there's a lot of charities out there there's a lot of people you know these kind of like and people are falling and all sorts of stuff from you know taking guns off people and all that are like you would have done it there and yeah so i think that it's been a year of education and we have to commend the irish nation and and all the other nations across the world as well the people not the governments the people have made massive sacrifices and many times they've had their sacrifices thrown back in their faces and to cover up for mistakes and create smoke for the the government that tend to fail a lot you know yeah buddy you're here here oh i would say oh i have to agree with you um normally we don't get too involved in politics in this show we'd like to keep it uh based on sport to sort of give people a breakaway from whatever is going on in the real world but i must say like uh i found it quite difficult listening to some of the stuff that the government here in ireland have come out to say like the shortest spiel that we're all in this together is one of the worst pills i've ever heard in my entire life there's three different types of people in this pandemic one the first one is those who have benefited from the pandemic that's your probably your supermarkets maybe your chemists and probably your tech firms two people who may remain relatively unscathed people who are working in the government or have government-based jobs and then third which i actually fall into this category go now people who have lost their jobs or their income has been greatly affected there are the three different types of people we're not allowing this together people have very different outcomes from this pandemic and i actually think it's quite insulting to say we're all in this together because we're not anymore so when they went with that headline it was they they're messing with us they're messing here with that they are um i think you you don't know if you've seen the video on how governments set up these kind of things where they go stop look listen you know so everything has a little kind of a system to it on it when they went with that one there's no doubt they were looking at a board and there was four or five different slogans on that board and it was like the white lads which one are we gonna go for well i bet you someone leaned in and said for the crack let's go with that one rolling this together for the crack let's go with that over the crack and let's see what happens and it does have a nice ring to it but if the irish government whatever to say that we were ever in this together with anything the lawyer they're always lying when it comes to that kind of stuff i'm telling you um i'm in council meetings now a lot of the time and i'm starting to get better at this i absolutely came in here as a beginner and as a as a white belt for him i'm a little student you know i'm on my learner and online here for any other reason we can never look at my kids in the face when they ask me when this is all over and say well what did you do that what did you do when this was all going on i did whatever he could i tried to do whatever he could i tried to learn i tried to figure out what was going on and i treated em and held the people and unfortunately if you look at history anyone that ever stands that ever says anything is the prayer and it's always been the way so when you look at the 1916 easter rose and go is it i don't know if you've ever read podrick pierces the letter to his mother from the cell it's powerful so powerful he knew everything that was going to happen because they followed the revolution that had came across europe and it'd been coming for a long time murder was nearly the last one to get it but they the the textbook was there and that was the revolution in 1916 that we've seen but when that men were dying when they were getting shot and i think it was actually the irish independent called for the execution of them of the of the um the rebels and seven men stood up i am old macneil canceled on the day a lot of people didn't hold up because they had the odds the ship had been a caught with the arms and the boys knew that there was no other chance that they had to do this now and they went for it but they all do it um as a shame or as a human's greatest pool ridicule you know so you need to be careful of that one so what you do is you dig your heels in you find your information and and you you stick with your guns and if you're wrong you hold your hands up oh it's count there's a council meeting on my hand that's all right we won't give you tricks away just yet we need regulators of integrity in government that's what we need it's the show is over this is it should be no longer called a job or a a political career you know it's like let's get rid of that most of the people that have been in the doll have been in there through generations to generations so they've got us here so here's the responsibility here we are these are hajj is a chance you know and i think maybe we are the generation now the generation of the institutional lawyers the the the the people had to move to different countries um the working class and the middle class and all of the classes now we can people have came and settled here in ireland and called earth in their home now you know where it's claimed that that generation stood up and held the wheel you know so they i won't say is that if the government's work for us because when you look at the constitution they actually don't i think it's article one it's like um it says that we get the choice and have the privilege to elect the rulers and and then they get the choice to make the government to make the legislation so anything after that and sort of common practices or the common good of the country so we end up in a situation where they get to describe what the common good is um patty obviously you've er ended your affiliation there with their champagne but did you have a political mentor or do you have someone who you look to up to in politics and go i want to be like that person that person makes a difference um a lot of people probably don't know this book i am there's no doubt we went in there's them thinking oh he was in i'm not kind of going to the ufc saying we're not the token irish guys in here you know and he was deadly about that but he didn't really believe him um i'm not the talking cage for you you know i'm not this this this working class you don't feel that you can just wind up and he's going to ruin and do everything that you think not me i am a skilled in the art of war and his sons of you must and the idea of him my grandfather has been raising me for this now my grandfather when i was 15. but every saturday i would sit in his house and he would tell me we would watch the doll and he would tell me how he walks how him counts walk how quote his work and i didn't really really know all of that stuff at that time you know and it was only when i got all that i started realizing that book it's only when you learn something you're like he was saying that to me you know he was teaching me that so and i spent a lot of time in belfast but i don't know like this situation everybody's political now because you get forced to be when you're in a situation so when i grew up a lot of them in belfast i'm looking out the window going why is this happening what is going on here how come we're not allowed over there and how come they're not allowed over here and how come that guy has a machine gun walking down the road you know and that's as a kid arnold schwarzenegger would have been your hero and stuff like that none of it so we would have been like this man has a machine going you know so i was gonna take a situation where politics unfortunately enters your life because it's part of the way i live i was going to say i suppose one thing that doors play in your favor is you play the game of human chess jiu jitsu so you know i mean you're always a couple of steps ahead yeah well the martial arts movement for sure and that's it i'm not with no ego and i'm not in this for a game and i i you say this sometimes and i don't want people to think especially the people who elected me here in in jobs town and or you say i don't want to be here i'm not supposed to be here but i'm looking around and i'm saying someone's going to do it and you you are someone you know and unfortunately until i hope one of people started it start thinking like me and start realizing with me that we can no longer sit back and watch this this is not an episode on netflix you know what i mean this is this is real life and we're heading in the direction where looking especially when we're housing and building and like some of the places that are being involved there's multiple amounts of apartments being bought up and they get let out they get let out so they get rented at hoy hoy rent some some of them are on hot and um rents as well which is like a housing assistance payment which is paid through kind of like taxpayers money in stockholm and some ministers and some politicians are well into this game of of the housing game you know in 10 12 years time and you do the maths of the rent that we are paying up now so you they'll be 2 000 euro for the rent so when you do the maths in 20 years that whole block will be paid for and then they own that and then guess who's going to be renting them apartments at 100 percent profit your kids jade and my kids buddy that's not my money message well myself and barry i'm the only one who has a kid so uh how scary that could be and then all of a sudden you're not even that but your kids landlord is not really somebody who grew up and worked off to pay for an apartment that now your kid lives in so i don't know i'm not making any assumptions here and all i'm saying is i'm just watching down the road of what's happening and my own area is a good example of a city west has had some incredible buildings in it now and there's a thing called an shd i don't know if you know what that means as i said i'm learning so an shd is a project where a developer comes to the county council and what they do is they if they can offer more than a hundred say properties or 100 um units so 10 is supposed to go to social housing which does but if you bring 100 forward you no longer need permission of the council or the county council you now get permission off a thing called onboard panola an onboard panel of the soyuz and what happens in all of these housing estates and onboard panola is it is a much smaller board of people so as a counselor i can't vote against i don't know say a 15-story apartment block that's getting put up somewhere and you're like it breaks all the rules all the local area plans and before you brigade don't have ladders that are 15 stars i suppose like that is the political scene in ireland just just um to get things back mma was obviously um you know this year has been rough for the irish amazing and clown wars canceled followed by um cage legacy also being cancelled will irish mma be able to continue to exist in the coming years because a lot of the gyms are under pressure as well because they can't open at the moment what's your take on a paddy i said at the start of all of this that the bigger gyms um the bigger gyms need to sort of kind of help some of the smaller gyms when this is all over in a way you know so whether that be i don't know running some fundraising stuff or just trying to get the euro gyms back on that on that feet a little bit because um whether we look or not we need all of the genes because the more we have the more competition we have and but i think what the order scene is missing is we've built this from the top down so if this was a triangle we've built it from the top down so we started in the ufc basically and we where we didn't start there but you know what i mean it was first recognized as in the ufc yeah and we've built backwards but we haven't really got a lot done and that's what's being straightened that's what i think um i think imaf is is a great structure and it can get omar is a great structure new idea we're coming together there's a lot of division in irish mma which hasn't made it happen as fast as it may be showed but there's still no national scene so the zero national scene where when i was coming up you could fight every single weekend there was a show all the way you know also knows cage contender then there'll be a chaos in derry sorry battle zone battleground yeah andy williams and the boys out there and there'd be just some amazing shows all the time there was always places to get fruits now it's very hard to get free so so why is that paddy why is that because like myself from russell would love to be coming every saturday he was one for everyday happened when a lot of the regulations came in now i know i am for the regulation so i want to i want to i want to stay at that point as well and so a lot of the brain scans came in a lot of they did the bloods and i think but that unfortunately sometimes that's the way it needs to go it needs to go into a way to be to be more recognized and not only just to be recognized by your sports council because i don't even think the sports council that recognized some sports cared about them sports you know when you think about it's golf it's it's hot it's um greyhound racing it's it's a there's a lot of stuff being taken away from other stuff if you get me you know what i mean and i don't play golf we're not betting dogs you know so that doesn't benefit me there's a lot of sports out there that are with the sports council and are getting let down as well and do is there like a board of directors of mma in ireland yes so on oima so omar will be the board of directors and i i probably couldn't tell you who it is now to be honest and it's been a while since i've been there but um yeah but there is and then this is not false by anybody you know so many people walking so hard behind the scenes and people like cliffstone people again like lemon griffin and stuff like that and all that there is people walking really high behind the scenes and they say i just think there needs to be a little bit more to get on this a little bit more discussion and a little bit more of like what the use wants regarding the scene do you think it could take you know all the gym owners from all across the country to sort of meet up at the one time and see if they can build or hma in like almost pointed direction to bring it forward because at the moment i assume there's no government funding for m.a in ireland and i think that would follow under i think i know who to go to jack chambers for that um and like i think yeah i know i wouldn't be too uh deloitte have knocked on jack chambers door either head will be haircut but that's about i'll have to ask some people actually to be honest i'm not too sure about that part there so i'll actually have to get back to you on this bm and the other thing that you asked me about to be honest um i have been thinking about and i do agree with your point but it's going to be a little down the road before we see that and i'll have to get back to you about the other points that you said about your put up points and i'll get back to you and we don't come call it so that that's also very reminiscent of the virgin media tonight uh performance as well what i mean i'm just going to let me dog out the back here away because she's doing circles here yeah so you put the dog out did you you haven't adopted her you haven't adopted the dog she has more losers and uh paddy if you're changed two or three things in oregon amazing from the ground up what would be the two or three three things that you would change to add that bit of regulations uh together and sort of point it all in one direction um i'd love to see a like a board that that really gets it once he really gets along because that's probably not a great board to be honest then a board that sits on a national scene you know now we know gamma is there as well and i think that's phillip mulpeyer's baby you're thinking that way you know what i mean and lots of people have came in to kind of help that girl as well and i think that's brilliant but like we don't have an irish champion we don't have an irish bantamweight champion you know we've never really had had that you know and and i think if we all got together and we made sure like government funding the mentioned there a little while ago um but i don't think that's going to help you know it's very expensive to compete in mma mma is probably one of the most expensive sports to compete in regards especially if you want to go away for oima so if you want to go away for the annoying championships twice a year you could be talking probably for your grant you know um that sounds doing cheap as well that sounds so cheap yeah that's [ __ ] now as a coach like i i've had to pay my own fluids my own accommodation um like i paid able to quit to sit with a cage and actually coach athletes i don't know if you know that so um coaches have to pay the exact same amount as athletes have to pay and they don't even get to hit anybody don't if i hadn't they get getting especially if you can consider you know the hotel is getting so many foyers being paid you almost think the coaches they'd be like for every metaphor bring you get x room free you know for every five rooms you book you get one for each for the coach you know i mean you think there'd be something along those lines you know we maybe fundraising kind of sparred in sessions and stuff like that and all but um i don't know where it ever raised we don't know where to ever kind of amounted to but we know anything about him it's been a bahrain and we've been in italy um so far um andy william when you were there to come on as an assistant coach and i was like absolutely this is a great idea we want to give back i always want to give back and not only that but i want i want some of you at least to be able to feel that movement and you know what i mean in a way and when i was out there in bahrain every evening i was up kind of grappling with it the people who had been knocked out i got me knocked out knocked out but knocked down the competition and and people were like wow we knocked out your office there's your headline tomorrow yeah from other countries and it's it's great and like innately it was the same and one of the nice um down kind of showing some scams on the beach and you know it's just really really good to be able to think of the athletes like that see the fire and the young athletes and and now like when we were looking up the hill we were coming up like anybody that had touched the ufc was was full of knowledge or you know me it was telus tell us more and then i know i can see that their lawyers now when it's deadly because you just give them as much time as possible and tell them not to make mistakes and this little stuff you know i mean it's not always technical to be honest i think technical part of this game is probably about probably 60 percent and then 40 percent if you want to make it you want to provide for your family you need to know whether you want to do this as a professional for a job or whether you're doing this because it really makes you feel good and you enjoy it yeah we're also okay i mean like patty as you as you know like we cover the sport and like like i found more and more in love with the sport not just in arnold but around the world the more and more we like that we as weeks go on the more shows we do i just love covering it and it's just the athletes you meet and then some of the stories are so like heart wrenching and then and like uh to see how much they put in and some of them are parents as well on top of everything or some of them were broke as well and for it to not be recognized like the way the government just put it as if like it's the the black sheep of the family in the back you know me in the back of the photograph or they might take the photograph but i mean it's like it can't go on for much longer because like look the way the stuff in the internet is things are blown up like um knockouts or wins or stories the francis and ghana one in the ufc like these are the stories i should be told and um it's just i feel like ireland's missing out but we have like stars here ready to uh put up on a pedestal almost i don't know ross what do you think man well i almost say um when we were first doing this show buddy we were looking to get the biggest and best names on we and we we we we have had some great guests we like in terms of irish and may we've had yourself we've had own roddy you know phillip and peter we had tommy egan on there recently and and then in terms of like worldwide superstars we've had like john mccarthy josh thompson sugar shawn o'malley leon edwards stephen wonderboy thompson like the list goes on but this latest lockdown has made me realize that i actually love promoting the irish mma guys and the guys who are on the way up i like giving them an opportunity to voice how they feel and what they're doing and i actually get so much more out of giving back to those guys and letting those guys give them a platform to say how they feel or promote their fight because at the end they they're the ones who need to be pushed and i again like i suppose there is something irish where you do want to support your own and i just feel like when we have the oil at least on like when we launched the face off i think uh josh and chad were the first face off that we did and then also like we're very much on about like giving the females equal respect because i think it's the one sport in the world where females are treated the exact same as the males there is no drop off i don't want to actually touch on that game because i actually think mma champions equality more than any other sport i would i would challenge somebody to bring a different sport that champions equality more than mma that would do that we had a game when you had the mckenzie damn for you absolutely amazing and the skill level as well you know and then you have a like you have just like the idea of them saying wonder rousey as a superstar you have dealt back to gina carrano um ashley daley and being like dude the forced irish ufc ufc world champion not ufc world champion what's happening you know what i mean you have you have a and lee mccarthy at the moment as well then you have other people coming up behind like you have a like sean abandoned who you just had on youtube as well this is going to be an absolute superstar at staying on the right road you know and and i really do think that's like that would be a challenge to find that sport the champions and equality better than um mma oh i really and that's that's one of the things i love about it i remember being on the on the mountain candidate and when i was only i think it was 19 years of age and just looking around and being like this is amazing i was rolling with someone who was the district attorney at the time over there i'm going straight out of jobs you know because of that because there was just so much um diversity in the room you know like so many different cultures so many different kind of uh traditions to be able to learn and from and not just learn about traditions but it scales off people as well you know so i would say i think every kind of every kind of culture as well kind of like adds something to this as well in a way you know um you've got like the russians the irish the americans then the brazilians you know it's just it just all comes together i think it's a it's a really good melting pot and not only that but the scales keep getting better so it's a it's a it's a really it's a really really something like the champion in the sport is that yeah it's a it's a massive for equality so i don't know how the government doesn't get behind it be honest on what i'm saying i'm not too concerned whether they get behind or not but there is other ways we don't need the movement the government to just open up the portion and show us it we don't need that there's many ways to make money to make this work if we needed to make a walk you know yeah what else and what else would you would you recommend i know obviously you can't just look at how bad manchester united perform just troll money and not being able to get the right people in but like what what like what sort of more steps would you take i know ross asked you this sort of question already in a different way but like what what can you see over the next like year or two there's many ways to fundraise that's a little william is there many ways phone raise we should use that my government's logo yeah you heard that one off alan colgan did you say that it doesn't look like your best friend yeah that's what's happening he put any man sometimes there is many ways to fundraise you know and that's what we should be doing so we should be the idea of say if there was um we were putting on shows and it was it was collection towards all of the coaches so all the coaches in the country kind of come together and everybody gives it a bit and we pack it one big show three times a year you know and that then dates never change and we we can we ask the councils and to come on board and support this because this is like this is i don't say this is easy but like mma saves people and that's it so at this moment the time we've never needed or never had more of a chance to be able to say reaching out let's create some programs to integrate into the community and not only that but then layers people up out of the community and make champions out of them make all earned champions out of them and then they get the opportunities with sponsors and now the rest of it just happens but we could fundraise without the problem was be that promoters have to put their neck on the lawyer um and risk the money but a lot of people came together or you don't know it was two grand each or something like that and we put all into a care into a into an account or something like that and it's that running the show that was based on you know a board in a way rather than somebody owns and somebody knows what's going on because sometimes you're dependent on integrity and depending on fairness and i'm starting to realize if you depend on them being you're probably not going to get them what would you think paddy if you you know between omar omar gamma i mean there's a bit of a coming together and you made sure there was four shows a year one in dublin one in cork one in galway and one up in belfast and then that way you know you knew those four dates you know you have three months to bang off one then three months to the next and three months the next and three months to the next and that became like the show you did i don't know 20 fights on each show and like that was the start of something what would you think of that that's what that's what i'm talking about you know i think that that's that's a that's a savage idea and the idea of that way everyone would know who would you who the person was for that position because we're kind of running into a situation like this and as i said i'm i'm not i'm not getting on anybody i'm not getting anybody because i feel that everybody's doing a massive amount of walk and they all have so much on as well we all have so much on with our gyms and athletes and all that going around the pro just it's madness you know what i mean but if we could kind of um designate people to actually fix this part and build this part together we would know who the people are because we're heading in the direction where sometimes it's not going to be the best person for the job because the broke or working class i know for the fact that omar and uma i probably would not be able to be involved um at the level of that it need to be for gold medals and stuff like that and i know it's hard it's like yeah we get a sponsor and that one year somebody sends you away twice that's a big commitment for it for it for the company you know to go back and say yeah well i need to go again that's another big commitment for the company so not many people are getting pockets there yeah and what i don't want money ever ever ever pushing people out of this part because if anything this sport this part trives in in in council house in the states and and and and i don't know what you're saying that that you're just not for the fact that people that need this sport um but i need to be in this part we need to be encouraged sometimes it's not always going to be like well you come to my club you pay away you know something around it's like him i don't want to say it's like if you're dealing with someone saying addiction or something like that if you're willing to help somebody come up sometimes you've got to be willing to let them fall knowing your poems and bleaching and and the cultures in this country are amazing for that in a way where they give so many different kind of chances and stuff like that to people but we need to now start creating not just the chances and giving them but the opportunities tilts so i think it's very hard to tell somebody we sell you pick for your team and you're going to bahrain and i'm like with delhi but then they realize it costs two and a half grand or something you know so and i suppose that comes down to it that we might not actually be sending the best guys we might be sending the best guy who can afford it or the best girl who can afford it which could be very different to the best guy but i suppose i think maybe what we can all agree on is urgent may maybe needs a bit more structure and a bit more collaboration between everyone to improve it onwards and upwards i think we can definitely all agree on that as well some incredible volunteers they're ready to go sorry russ we can only of the people who are like unwilling no problem put more time in you know what i mean i've been coaching for 15 years and but not only that like we qualifications showed up like my coaches needs in canada trying to vancouver tech and we're doing coach management and training training kids with disabilities and a lot a lot you know what i mean so i'm not i don't want nothing i'm willing to pay to do this and then you have people like andy ruin and then limo griffin and and dean away and philip mulpeyer and stuff like that and then like you know so and then then you have like you have uh john caveney and roddy at the top and stuff like that with the audio on the board and cliffstone and there's a lot of good people that are coming together here so we don't think i don't think it's impossible you know we can get i think this can walk them for for all imagine for enough but it needs to have a national scene and it needs to not only just give these opportunities to people it needs to create the opportunities to be able to to give that to that person too so maybe four or five sponsor that leads our stem scholarship at least go in a year or something like that and then the shout out to tom king chris fields because i think we're the only two people we haven't named sorry only because the boys don't only have the boys that are not involved at the then again two absolute veterans of the sport as well that are blazing a whole new lane if you ask me on their own so the cage warriors lane was always a lane that was there but there the boy is running in there with me and gary and and doing amazing things themselves you don't mean a team kf but they like there's been many lanes to where you were going and depending which way you go all these those positives and negatives your email from the only mile one is um is new that's the newest lane of them all you know so that was you go the ultimate four year and then you get sued or you go cage one of yours you know you just get a heap of wins and they wait for the ufc to come here yeah just before we get into like there's sort of the next wave and uh this weekend's fights as well i just want to say like like hopefully people are watching this and they'll take something from them and be like right maybe you'll uh start moving things in their brain to move things forward because like uh obviously myself from ross coverage and we we want something to be sort of shorter for not like not around personal gain in any way it's just like these people are putting so many hours and spending and missing out so many times so much time with their families and you know they should be compensated in some sort of way and they're not getting it it just doesn't i know we said like you can't you can't wait if you're sitting there waiting for fairness to be waiting for a long time but something can be done especially the way obviously we'll get into it now the way like obviously connor like trailblaze for everyone that paddy bought anybody outside i love when the user sitting after your wins and then he i think he passes you the middleton rares and he's like go on the hooligan and then he's watching i was asleep that's a mad moment when you know it actually is mental like this is what's going on here it was sitting at the top of this day in a week like it's just like act killed he acted cool but the thing is right we'll get into it now obviously conor's now facing some dustin pouring on the 10th of july and this is going to be there's going to be fans around the arena but uh when you heard that fight was being made and what did you make of it the trilogy is on like um what are your thoughts on the trilogy and i know some people will be like oh well how long you don't just don't making it kind of deserves it let's be straight if there was ever a special case for somebody to say that someone deserves some special treatment it's coming and conor has put some serious numbers on and not nearly close to anybody so that's how it works you know we think unfortunately in in business you know he puts a lot of money puts a lot of bums in the seats on a for that alone he absolutely deserves to have a lot of gold is so how exciting is this it's one all you know we think that the last one could have made a little bit more even more extreme you know and those things are great for you even if you look at the force for you um this one's good dustin was landing some shots and stuff like that and then but i think even in that features gone you see connor was landing the shots and i think personally you may immediately was panicking you know you couldn't see it and then and then and then obviously you caught you want to come over there with a few beautiful shots themselves you know but uh yeah i think i've always said this about connor it's like a machine and you feed the machine a jab a left across it will just translate that back into you and break your jaw you know that equals broken jaw you know what i mean or a broken nose whatever you know i think even those and conor was squared and the last one a little bit kind of thing he knows everyone's knows that themselves as well that's it he kind of goes in and knocks him out with two shots it's like whoa this is you know you'll never ever ever be able to trail and error things in this game and be satisfied because sometimes when you win it's just like sound but then sometimes when it doesn't go your way it's like overall like at some point also you need that for them if there's definitely a different outcome of um winning and losing regarding analysts to what you've done you know so yeah how do you i just want to ask you i don't know do you see the back and forth between dustin and connor say on twitter boys voice stay away from twitter let's be just is there anything even on twitter anymore well will i give you i'll give you again joseph said connor has um dodged the donation to his charity and he's been reaching out to him since january and conor's refuted the claim sort of said here look i was looking for a breakdown of what you were going to do with the money before i sent you i'm not just going to send you 500 rounds thanks very much but uh now connor's gone to the stage where he said you know what you yeah i think he called a hillbilly and a few other derogatory terms and said the fight's off i'll fight someone else july 10th what's called that i hope you enjoyed your pay-per-view money while you had it um what what do you make of this back and forth that that i've sort of regurgitated to you and if the void is off who would you like to see counterfeit in july 10th and said well i think dustin being that involved with a charity is first of all absolutely amazing and i think the arrangement of two guru had was amazing um i absolutely understand i would be asking for a breakdown of what's going to happen and what's going to be done with that movie as well because um what that for a breakdown if this was if this was a county council or any other point of um money that were talking about with that song to ask for a breakdown on someone not to give it is his word that's what he would say so he would have automatically thought that would be him i don't think conor mcgregor is actually sitting behind the computer himself with the back and forth he has representatives who are sitting back doing the back and forth and you know justin's seeing him with them then guys you know i mean i'm sure connor would like to get his eyes on the breakdown himself for at the end they i don't think he is reneging on giving the five hundred thousand dollars i think he'll happily give up i just think he needs to see what he's giving it towards surely just true a million didn't he into the ppe when an only country yeah i think actually the woman that did get the contract that he he used to do that and i can't remember her name but it was an incredible woman she came on and thanked him herself and stuff like that so she had a feeling that as well so yeah i'm sure the countless donations to crumbling children hospital i'd say i'd say he's their biggest at least athlete donor absolutely listen let's let's let we all let you bury that there like has no problem giving money to charity or apartment money and stuff like he's actually a philanthropist at this age even though that's a very hard word to say but uh he is the stage but let's just say this this does sort of kick on and he says you can jog on there mate is there anyone else you'd actually like to see him fight on july 10th i've always wanted to see that tony fragrance and so you have to say probably yeah that would be it that'd be good for you i think i think after a few a few shots though i think friggs have not been able to get the takedown and i've always found him a little weird that's just being straight and fakes and you know i don't think anyone's ever called him normal penny yeah yeah you would be weird to not [ __ ] weird now there isn't massive respect for him as well because he's an absolute engine book yeah there's nobody those who just saw an orthodox that's kind of like it's it's a bit crazy at that level you know it's like he was born in a cave yeah he does like two torn two twists he's moving around yeah i'd like to see that because i think that would that would be kind of like that would be nearly like uh grappler faces striker kind of thing you know holy level grappler like any bravo's kind of team and stuff like that and all they've been a black weather bravo i'm pretty sure diaz would be jeez yeah yeah definitely and then i think justin gates is also waiting in the wings he doesn't have a day for anything as well so there's there's no other option but i think uh connor might be uh not inclined to pay the ali aziz if he doesn't have to oh you think that is just engaging he met connor uh dustin he would get an awful lot and that's just being straight but he has that shape he has kind of like that eddie alvarez shape you know and even like when he's seen that and even again what's the other one that's been chasing it for ages and the red panda he was actually the the red rapper the original red panda the og the red panty game yeah he's kind of the green panties that was cringy wasn't it josh actually shared something there the other day on there on his instagram and he copies them word for word yeah where is jackson in it right yeah you did it he was like in his body shape that clipper body shape kind of the density of our body shape anybody shapes connor just chills them you know he's too long is his heart his reaches a little bit too long from him you know what i mean i think when they get hit it's very hard to get a takedown and then even if you look at diego brandel as well that kind of um he really turned uh from like sort of rabbit attack dog to like lost puppy when he got in there with connor you want to see him in the room after the weigh-in why was he was he pumped ah not pumped he was just or he could you know smell that queen of that little bit of a like now but he was like he was like fearful in the way where he would attack not fearful in the way where he would be intimidated and i think that that's in you you know what i mean you see that so and he wasn't intimidated but he was oh you can imagine he didn't sleep well that way a call so yeah because he was he was wound up in that room for sure for sure probably like like obviously conor is doing like just i don't know i can't even believe one man can do so many things right but like um like a lot of people these days like um they're like who's next in you see they're always asking us and then obviously dean barry had had a fight lined up for a while and then obviously the the rise of ian gary i had that for you well you didn't have that dude i don't know like it was made to happen screaming for that american wrestler probably the worst ever case would be come out of and we got the soldier on the 14th of december and a back surgery and then they fought in july so all of that was recovery today and hope to that was a good soldier before that norms it was a mad mathematician sorry i had it yet december and then he was probably a bad matchup on paper if you as well you know what 100 percent oh he knew that everybody knew that that's what he the odds knew that he was six to one oh oh he actually looked i actually looked at i was fighting because what's called that was barry's first ever uh like ufc fight night and then like i was like i was like right you have to come this because i've been to a few battle zones before and i was like right you're coming to this right and then i brought him and he was like what do you think of the orange score chance to go i go i think they'll all win i go but patty holden's like definitely has the hardest point i was like i was like i was like your man sample is very good and i can't remember but he he just beaten someone who was quite cool before fighting news and i was like i was like that guy is sort of short but like stocky as hell and then i mean the first ever submission win by an irishman in ufc history the hooligan and i dropped them right because we don't live forever jump out the nest and flow you and that's what we think you know well the question is the issue though i think yeah he couldn't get a visa but it was in the end i couldn't get the visa it was the uruguay oh was it okay that's what's really amazing and i know the ufc would find anybody yeah they would have they could have ranked me on it reese mckee yeah yeah my god disappointing as well but i was more sort of asking you like uh you obviously have your ear to the ground like what sort of like talent do you see that's coming true that is really someone that the people watching now should be looking out for um i think there's some amazing talent coming up we really don't look i think um and it's not just kind of in one gym anymore you know it's um it's spread definitely across so you have um say would be someone to name um and ruddy's i think like even like when you look at jay harris and you look at like um william quarters coming into queen of maturity and stuff like that and all um and then obviously you can't pass a in gary ian gary is an absolute animal you know what i mean someone even in the the maturity of his performances you know um and in his shows shows his coaching he shows the level of coaching that he's getting as well and the idea of like not just skills but the maturity you can tell that the guys held that belt before and and that's around and like sharks again you know and then you have a james webb and stuff like that in with the lads so yeah and then in my own place and there's there's some there's some absolute animals there looking really my whole dream is always to come back and develop a squad and develop my own team and do it from scratch and i'm not into the idea of somebody jumping in half built getting me in a way like i don't mind helping anybody you want a hooligan from the ground up from the ground up that's what we say because you don't just build skills there you build everything you build relationship you build trust you build loyalty you build all of these things and and some people's loyalty and i don't know maybe they're not getting at the start they're giving too much about the start they're not receiving enough of it at the start and they get stuck and it actually goes against them and their coach if the coaches in a situation that they notice that loyalty should go both ways where they say listen you need to move on now or you need to i don't know you want to be in that way but loyalty is a big thing and i see some people get stuck for loyalty they're not just in order they don't have they don't know what their teams are like high level athletes as well you just refuse to leave teams or refuse to move on or refuse to merge teams and develop other people you know what i mean i think that i think that's really important in developing so but look at again josh green josh green has a touch of like um a sleeping pill you know i mean he has that heavy hand he hit you and yeah that's your outlook you know that that was a good is absolutely incredible at least you know what i mean silver medal in the world and i forced him out there and be a a champion on our first fleet and fought three points went through um who else mikey born i don't know if he's on wikibon we place as well and has this left hand it's like a snake's tongue it's like in and out in and out and all of a sudden your house is broke and there's there's loads there really is there's joseph as well which is another guy he was just on clan wars there for patrick darling did you get a chance to look at the fleet and really good distance oh just look i look for the idea of like if this gets better at the rate it's getting better it's going to be better absolutely yeah like there's there's so much talent i think that's what made clown wars and kate legacy being canceled so devastating i was dying to i was really looking forward to seeing the um obviously the all the votes we did in the face-off but i was really looking forward to paula han versus leon hill as well so i was like yeah i was like jesus this is this is a fight that you know in five points for its time it could be someone five you know versus five and one you know i mean like these are two absolute solid goes um sorry i forgot to say him as well using animals and anybody you know you forgot that's all right thank you dms also uh shout out to glenn mcveigh who went yeah global well as well yeah you only have to have like a half second gladstone like ah dagestan yeah yeah so it's great such great air could have see that way that's why it was just amazing and the the dagestani lads the kyrgyzstan lads they're like just kind of wrestling and grappling with people and feeling like feeling the culture and grappling you know i never want to him what's his name oh punch him oh johnson think ufc 126. yeah he's queen and brave now he's fighting for the bell zone as well um he came and grappled in the gym one day he wasn't speaking at him brought me in and he doesn't speak english um at all i know he definitely don't speak russian at all and the two of us were having a conversation with grappler it was amazing it really was what always brings you back as he said to the beauty of this part of like places and kings and people that you've never talked to this sport has brought me to he was in your white class with one side as well absolutely they all could have got it i mean straight with you that's that's what we would have fought any single one of them on a day's notice you were to give it to me i'll be there and i'm swinging you know flyweight the weight used to kill me you know that was it used to be bad going out the freeway and we don't think we ever lost that bantamweight i don't think i'm going to feed it i was born i do think the ufc once they had the flyweight division once you were offline wait they were like you have to stay there because we need the depth in the division they didn't want to let anyone go up put them in you almost had to be you know henry's for them to be like point you can go up you know i mean the they they were a bit funny about that but maybe we should get into the results from the weekend and look forward to this weekend's uh card and then we'll let paddy leg it off i'm sure he's a very busy man yeah no i was really i was really enjoying this i'm sure we can we can do it again paddy maybe maybe maybe the week of connor's fight if you want to come back on as well absolutely right well well okay poke it in but uh okay i'll just go over the car some of the cars happened over the weekend and the cars on this weekend just so people know uh marvin victoria defeated kevin holland shout out to kevin holland coming in on like uh what was it eight days notice but marvin vitoria got to win uh ross where do you think barbara victoria should go from here i don't think the performance was like that strong enough to be like right he's jumped the queue and he gets to fight israel a lot of time i think if robert whittaker beats kelvin gosselin this weekend i think robert whitaker is your man he deserves a rematch he defended the belt a few times as well so i think he does deserve that rematch after racking off what three wins since he lost and i would like to see him probably fight for maybe uh jared khan here or maybe derek brunson and just because i think dantel is going to be out for a while paddy what about yourself um oh if i say fair play game on hold i'm actually looking at trying to get me me me bet over here oh who you bet on yeah i had all in there and um they're getting it you know i mean i was like he's coming in he's gonna be fresh he's gonna be i mean if he had a thought like he ain't you gotta fight like he's he he has in him and we think he would win that but he just kept getting taken down so yeah i had a i don't know if you can probably see that there but mckenzie during arnold kevin holland he was the first one kevin like i know like i i just can't really trust his uh his girlfriend give him the corner voice if holland hadn't won that but he was going to send that slip over to darren hill and let him be able to shout out to julia marquez uh miley cyrus's favorite fighter as well he won over the weekend but like lads if you're looking at the card this weekend this you see rob whitaker's headline against kevin gosling the rest of the card isn't actually that great but there is some notable names like who the [ __ ] is that guy jeremy stevens uh andre olofsky stepping up on short notes to face chase sherman and louis penas on the card and the abdul razak al hassan who had a great reputation until he lost his last fight but we'll just stick on the main one robert whitaker against kabul gasps and ross you touched on you think whitaker is going to get the job done but patty where are you putting your hunter crate on this weekend calvin gosselin or robert whittaker um first of all i ever seen gasoline pointing and was actually loyal when he was fighting for the ultimate freighter um finale and oh he was going to the ultimate forever trials the next day the shame is picking his nose all right say hello that was how's it going hey sheamus james um so i'm kevin uh they told me the ultimate fire do you remember that when he was going downstairs i don't know if you've seen this and he's eating a chicken burrito before they're filling the bath upstairs and he's like what are you doing he's like i'm fueling my body he's been around a long time that was about 10 years ago yeah so when you think it is williams and then you have a andre yeah oh sorry robert a veteran of the um against each foreign and then i think whitaker got injured and then out of tanya fought kelvin gaston uh that that's that's the way that actually went down these did a whole season the ultimate fighter and then didn't vote against each other which is probably quite strange so uh look these these two are absolutely dense in the white game yeah yeah i always look at kelvin gaslum i think i feel like his career might end with what could have been i mean i feel like as you said he's a man who loves his field if he got his diet in check he probably could have been down at 170. he probably would have been a toilet contender there he gave toronto on what he already could get and then some uh 170 well he actually missed weight a bit torn woody very generous he actually told me you keep the money don't worry about it and but i think he could have been a champion at 170. i think at 185 as good as he is he's just under assault and he i just don't see him being able to get three or four wins in a row and get the get the belt to be honest well but i have to say i think i think writer robert whitaker probably doesn't there because i am i think kevin wouldn't be able to get the takedown and even if he does i don't think if he's consecutively gonna take down there that's the main event is it yeah yeah four round feet as well you know what i mean now we know that kevin has they did they they the only the global kevin our um robert whitaker has the idea to be able to beat you up and break you in places you're gonna be and break your leg go to the body break the head he's doing 10 rounds with ryoel romero anyone who's doing 10 rounds of yellow romero is there for the long haul yeah you should just require him 100 million contracts that's what like that you want me for that yeah yeah i'm going to go for whitaker as well and this will not i can see it being a decision though but like it's sort of like a arasania gas someone just like because gaston just does not stop yeah that's what i'm saying yeah no she'll be good good big head hard hard to knock out big head big heart also on friday night lads uh we're just gonna finish up with bellator here uh ryan better defeated the auto machine in the rematch leo obviously beat him the first time ryan better goes on to the next round of the bellator light heavyweight grand prix paddy who do you think is going to win the low heavyweight grand prix um i would say is underestimated definitely i think he's always been a great player and to be honest i'm not he will scratch on the whole benatar kind of he was in the rankings and he was because i don't i don't know i'm not saying that isn't but it never is really deep is it or are we wrong well the lloyd heavyweight vision is quite deep i think the problem is in ireland it's very hard to watch your channel your channel changing to actually watch it but uh i'll give you a quick rundown on the tournament better beat machida and corey anderson's point this weekend against davis this weekend and then the fourth fight which is the one you'll really like paddy is anthony rumble johnson versus joel romero yeah there we go that's a scrap isn't it yeah they're going to reinforce the octagon for that the cage or whatever it's called yeah absolutely they're they're the eight names who are in the tournament to deem them cause is the current champ so like their loyal heavy division is probably as deep as the ufc's at the moment if when you take john jones over and but yeah it's very hard to follow bellator at times over here you you don't really know where it's going to be on oh oh you know if when i had to force you know even to follow anybody anymore just just with family life you know yourself i've got like 20 to watch that like uh pre-record once and so i recorded something i got to watch the ufc this weekend and i haven't done that in ages because because it was early it was brilliant cheeseburger very noisy it was very nice at that time isn't it we saw in a petition over here in europe together always at that time that's what we need to do yeah in bed before 12 o'clock like uh namco is fighting davis for the second time this weekend as well and anderson's one you're actually murdered off uh i'm going to go for nemkoff in this let's try to give your pick on the davis namco fight yeah i'll go first i'm going to go against the grain here i know i've said nemkov was probably one of the favorites to determine for this is a rematch and nemkov actually took the belt off till davis i feel phil davis be hungry in the rematch and he'll be able to get the job done that's what i'm going to say even though nemkov trains his fedor so he's probably well tuned in that [ __ ] but phil davis also has the best shoulders in mma they're bleeding triangles on top of his shoulders phil davis is an animal isn't he uh we haven't got to see that forcefully but he would have to go to phil davis with this one as well because then he's a he's a hard man to bet against solid foot you know i mean really good wrestling a really good technique and dave especially against defense on the separation or not like that might get spin and chop your rubric off you know what i mean yeah and then patty before we let you go right this is the last one jake paul's fighting ben asking this saturday i know you've already paid for the pay-per-view how's this laptop down here you have no you you don't think you don't think you don't know who you think's gonna win i just like to see that jay paul getting punched right here same with someone everyone's just being straight like me now you see him getting squared one of them i'm just turning the telly off they're not happy i'm just going to be like that's the way i have i don't listen anybody that gets into the ring i don't care if you're a youtuber or whatever you are but and it's scary getting in there you know the lad has a lot of money obviously so he doesn't have to deal for the money so there's there's a lit there's about this much of me that gives him that that respect for that you know what i mean i think he's um i respect that fight football this is probably the first for him that he's fought for you and ben askren is definitely not a boxer and definitely not a stand up for you are you know what i mean but he's a fighter i know he don't care if you get tired he if he gets quiet in there and against ben askren he is going to be in trouble yeah i agree russ oh you know what you know i hate talking about this fight it's just one of those things where like i'm just like oh here i have no it has to be brought up this is like this is a pop culture right now you can't you can't i know i know like look j paul's younger he's um probably in the better shape now between the two of them ben's coming off hip surgery and he's been boxing training for what the last three years ben ashland's putting the camp together for 12 weeks it is a different sport may especially considering he relied on his grappling so heavily in his mma career and look i'm sure the bookies favorite is probably jake paul or uh i refuse to say he's gonna win so i'm gonna say ben affleck yeah i'm gonna agree with that i just can't go against being asking him just like just literally hey buddy head you know i mean it's like yeah i'm just very into prank mirrors on the other card as well and someone as well like so this is going to be frankly boxing someone on the other card frank man yeah yeah in the box i think he's playing like a proper professional boxer though he's not he's not [ __ ] like a youtuber a random thing lads do you think that this uc card this weekend isn't already stacked because dana knows that people are going to be checking out jake paul versus ben oscar because he put he he's after betting like over a million dollars and stuff so maybe he's like hold back with a few of these lads and then go all out again next week dana's no bleeding name he's not new with related he's the veteran of the game so he absolutely knows so that absolutely could be the could be the thing that's saying that you know what i mean yeah well here look buddy we're gonna wrap things up there because like we've kept it too long when you're a very busy man but patty i want to thank you very much for coming on and speaking about the irish mma scene as well because it's very important to me it's very important obviously it's very important to you it's your whole life it's uh i know hopefully the people that tune in today like uh took something from it because like my southerners do plan on inviting more and more head coaches on to uh just discuss these sort of things because i'm sure people have stuff to say and they want to find out more and you know i mean we all love this sport at the end of the day that's why we do this russ absolutely same here i couldn't agree more and i have to say fair play these are service lads as well because it's not easy i'm not using i sit there with bags of money you get paid for this year definitely you're short russ will you give away people you're getting paid slightly yes i'm doing the l thing until you make it here buddy i'm actually i'm actually i'm actually unemployed so as much as anybody the reason why you set the podcast up at that point we did what i did back in the day was make sure that people had a platform and the young athletes had a platform to be able to talk and not only that to be defended as well and pushed forward as well because they need it and that's it yeah you know we really enjoyed your podcast as well you're not a really interesting maybe backstage no shame maybe we might make it on the red couch someday he was our own boys thanks for coming on uh make sure to follow patty's work as well uh paddy we want to thank you again very much for coming on it was just really really great crack and people get to find out more about their hma so uh russ and that's before we wrap things up no just that you up there spg doubling 24. uh you can't beat it uh one of the best mixed martial arts gyms in the country and if you did enjoy this video make sure to like share subscribe and as always