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Combat Confidential #011 - S2E3 - Vitoria Guimaraes Welcome back to another exciting episode of Combat Confidential! In this installment, I sit down with a remarkable guest who's not only a budding entrepreneur but has also recently taken the plunge into the world of Brazilian…

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laughs [Music] so yeah amazing all right so uh here we are welcome back um we have Miss uh Victoria how do you say surname your surname uh okay give them a rice yeah I'm gonna I think there is a very famous football player with the same surname because people here keep asking me oh like the Bruno gamerang so I don't know like I I don't follow football me either so I haven't a clue if you are a jiu-jitsu fighter maybe people would know yeah okay so just uh give people a little bit of background on yourself so you are the wife of Mr Edson um you don't need all right hold on uh Edson Junior you guys don't share the same surname no is that like a cultural thing like or did you did you like a good like thing in Brazil like people are usually like taking the partners like the husband's surname but we didn't change no I didn't change my name because I already had it's very Progressive yeah no it's because I've already two names because I have the Brazilian citizenship okay and then I have these Spanish citizenship and this is like a different surnames in both so I would have to change confusing and got married is just like one month before we came to Ireland so then I would have to change all of my IDs all of my documents so then it would be like a big problem so you should make him take your name see that to make it easier to make it easier for you yeah oh man okay so sorry um so you're you're into his wife yeah um you guys started a business together yeah welcome a team of BJJ and you're also like you you train Jiu Jitsu now you're yeah all right you know you you train yeah you know but like you're not container yeah no that's perfect yeah so most professional like I'm just doing this for like a couple of months but it's been great okay so we'll just jump right into them so like what is it like okay so if it wasn't for Edson because I'm sure he was kind of pushing you I pushed my wife constantly like come on just try it just try it just try it and you know she doesn't understand the appeal of it so what it like if it wasn't for Edson would you have still done it you think or no I don't think so no because like we are together uh next month it's gonna be like actually this month's gonna be nine years nine years and he started uh he started doing today so when we like first met okay so since he started he's saying oh you have to do you have to try blah blah blah and I was always saying no it's not for me I think I won't like it it's very aggressive so it's not like something that like I really want to do it right and now I started because of the gym I just started because we opened the gym together and then I was thinking okay how can I just tell someone for my client to try something that I don't even try so I have to do see if I will enjoy to have the experience to tell other people to do and now that I started I just wish I just wish I had started earlier because like yeah it's been great a great challenge I was really when we go inside we're gonna need them I'm gonna need you to the towels and that oh yeah yeah that that's special that's fantastic you know um what is it that you wait what do you find most appealing like why do you why do you wish you had started earlier because it's not about no first of all because I don't like to exercise I tend to be a little a little bit lazy so I'll try to gym so many times I really don't like the feeling of exercising because I have to pay attention on the techniques and like I have to do something and learn something it's interesting like it's for the mind it's very interesting and I don't actually feel like I am exercising so this is a great point for me okay but it's not only about the exercising and the techniques it's more like it's a mental Challenge and I have to like keep pushing myself to do something it's very new it's a new environment for me so it's completely out of my comfort zone and it makes me like go and work for it and I think now like I have goals as well so it's been very hard for me especially because I'm not very competitive so okay you know I'm not I was never competitive before I started training I was never competitive yeah now I'm trying to change the way I think it's not like about like trying to be better than I was yesterday yeah this is like something that Jiu Jitsu is really working on me you know that I I understand that completely um like I said I was never a competitive person but usually like when I get on the maps and I tend to get pretty yeah pretty competitive but you know it's not even about that it is about the kind of all right I still have the mindset of like you said you know it's about being better than yesterday what about the Elder person it's not about your opponent even even it's like it's inside of interrupt you yeah sorry no worries so it's not about like the other person it's not about my opponent it's about myself yeah so I have to be better trying to improve every day like and do things with Excellence which is great yeah so like um when I trained with Edson and he and I rolled together you know he throws me around like a like I'm a kid which is nuts because I'm I'm pretty I'm dense I'll say it I'll say that and um you know I still have that competitive spirit with him you know even though I know he's probably gonna smash me um well I shouldn't even say probably he does um but yeah like it's that you know that one percent better yeah that you're that you're working on you know it's not necessarily yeah that you can win or that you're you know you're competitive reasonably that's not yeah well sorry first of all like I I think that it is like it's fantastic that you you started this and you kind of right off the bat you're like yes this is it yeah you know and yeah how do you as a okay so it's a male dominated sport as you know a woman how do you feel in it obviously you're in your own gym your husband is the you know the main guy so I I guess you probably have that error of comfortability yeah but yeah but I I think like when I look back for example I grown up with a we spent a lot of holidays on my grandmother's house from one side my mom has 10 siblings so I have a lot of cousins okay so on the holidays in Brazil we would all like go and like be together on my grandmother's house and we had like a group of cousins so I usually we're the boys and the girls and I was usually playing with the boys yeah okay yeah I'm uh I felt like I had more fun because I had to run I was like doing something through the balls and blah blah blah playing with cars so it's kind of like a tomboy when I was younger so of course like I have my lovely lovely cousins uh the girls but I was feeling more comfortable until a certain age like playing with the boys so I think today like I don't feel like a huge difference being at the gym with a lot of boys I like like I think guys when they're talking they're very fun and like they make a lot of jokes I mostly don't talk when I'm there but like I would like to be there like watching them and being in the atmosphere yeah yeah it's very fun so I like it I don't feel uncomfortable being there have you trained at any other gyms no no why not you should yeah just to continue expanding your horizons but I'm sorry so you've how long has it been since you started you've only been a couple months so we opened the gym five months ago yeah uh I'm still working so I'm still working as a receptionist here in Dublin okay and I own the gym as well so it's been just a lot of work so I'm kind of like going on and off on the trainings uh usually my when my scheduled when my schedule with the other work doesn't match with the schedule at the gym like of course I can't go and train yeah but I'm going on and off for five months already okay yeah but last month it's fantastic yeah now I feel like two weeks ago I started like more consistently so if I can keep doing like that hopefully I will have the time but yeah I think that's why I couldn't go and like train me in the other gyms as well because just like lack of time it's just a lot of things to do what um oh sorry not competitions are you when are you competing come on yeah it keeps telling me for me to go and complete but I don't feel like I have of course like as every new beginner I don't feel like I have enough skills for that but maybe next year maybe okay yeah I used to say that oh my gosh I would never like compete but I used to say that I would never train as well so it's just like now I'm learning with Jiu Jitsu how to Never Say Never because like I kept saying never and now I'm doing so if I say oh my God I will never go and compete again maybe in 10 years from now I'll do my first competition so I don't know yeah no I want to just joking no uh yeah that's it's always so cool to me to hear about someone who has found this like or who has found Jiu Jitsu like and I almost I I almost think of it like religiously you know you know like it as a religion because it's like yeah you found Jiu Jitsu how great do you feel now you know and she says oh my God exactly yes um like that's I'm a fundamentalist like that and um so it always makes me so excited to kind of hear that that someone has been introduced and they are now they're all into it you know and it's you know maybe it's not their life but it's becoming their life or it's something that they are yeah very happy and satisfied with yeah that's I was to say that like before I started even I used to say that oh my God people from Jiu Jitsu they are kind of like a church there like a fairy they call there a lot it sounds like something very strong and uh usually when they get to know digitso they all of it for example he breeds Jiu Jitsu now he he wakes up thinking about Jiu Jitsu he goes to sleep goes to bed like thinking about Jujitsu and he works with it and he likes to train like so he's it's part of him now yeah and before I met Jiu Jitsu I didn't kind of like understand but now I I know yeah I get it thank you speaking of that what is it like you know like you know being the partner of someone who is so obsessed I feel very proud yeah yeah yeah uh before I didn't get of course but like I always respected because I I could see when I met him of course like he he's a loving person he's an amazing person and his personality as well like it's very like right so he's lovely but when I met him he used to smoke a lot and drink a lot and I could see like the way that Jiu Jitsu changed him and changed his habits with food with like his health in general and it made him a more patient person as well and he's very anxious like he's hyper active so Jujitsu helps with that as well uh so I could see like the way that he improved himself as a person with Jiu Jitsu so I'm just like thankful yeah he used to be great as well now he's just like improved okay that's awesome yeah I like hearing that about it yeah I consider him to be a friend of mine and I like find all these positive things I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything bad about Edson who wasn't a  themselves yeah that that's all right so expanding on that a little bit has there ever been any times where maybe you're like okay cool it with the Jiu Jitsu how yeah of course so for example like um let me see a depend on me like everything was closed and he he wanted to go and try and change it so during the pandemic yeah oh okay covered hit nobody could go anywhere like nowhere or anything yeah and he were like oh my God I have to find a team like who's like doing Jiu Jitsu I have to meet someone to do Jiu-Jitsu like it was just like a  too much but and also as well like at home he likes to watch videos about Jiu-Jitsu and sometimes he's not using his headphones I keep like hearing about it so so now like I don't go I I'm really enjoying this bath of digits of course like I'm trying to learn more actually also because of the gym and everything but like I don't go and watch every day like a kind of newspaper yeah I don't go and watch every day to see what's going on like lately oh my God what was the last news about Jiu-Jitsu but he's doing it so it's just like sometimes it's annoying when for example I'm having my lunch or my dinner and I have the Jujitsu news on the background but no yeah I think just like this is the part that it can annoy me a little bit but women like I'm walking what are husbands if we're not annoying our wives a little bit yeah see it's part of life so yeah um that's so cool I'm so makes me happy that YouTube have some like he had something he was clearly passionate about yeah and then you now or you know you kind of you join in on that a little bit before you kind of you you accepted it and you you know kind of vaguely understood it but now you're kind of coming in I really need you to talk to Allison yeah um I'll give my testimony uh we were having a barbecue yesterday at the gym after the competition and we have this uh member yeah this is a student and his girlfriend were there and she was saying oh yeah Frank keeps saying oh I have to try but I've never done and I don't like it blah blah blah and I told her look I was for almost 10 years saying the same thing and now I tried and I'm really enjoying so at least try and then you can see if it's for you or not so I'm telling everybody the same story are there many women in your gym uh-huh there's a handful there's a there's a couple yeah four or five maybe yeah I would say five maybe yeah five or six yeah okay yeah wow like I'm proud to see them because it's very nice when we see women especially the ones who never tried and they're just starting in Jiu Jitsu it's very nice because even I felt the same so I can say it's not a lie that when we start and then when we learn the first technique like we feel that we can protect ourselves uh and it's like an awesome feeling it's amazing yeah no I I really want my girls like my daughter's obviously my wife um that that's one aspect that I really or that's one reason why I really want them to be involved is just kind of the you know the self-defense aspect um you know just that's there's a few things that keep me up at night and occasionally that's the one you know no do you offer any at the gym do you offer any like women's only classes we do yeah do we have um Jacqueline yeah yeah she's doing uh classes twice a week only for women really and she's also giving loads of seminars about self-defense and everything okay uh we are trying to make a partnership with a woman from Italy and she's often doing like few things here in Ireland and she will bring uh that X model I think uh what's the name of her mom okay okay uh uh I don't know it's a famous person Jesus yeah she she's a friend famous oh yeah I'll link it below and I'll throw it across the screen yeah she's uh Louisa Brunei okay she is a very famous uh person in Brazil and be a model okay um and she was married and he's he has um a situation of abuse from the husband the ex-husband now and now he's like just putting a lot of effort to bring information to people and we are trying to bring her to Dublin to help I think she is gonna be she's gonna have a seminar here so Jack it's Jacqueline is probably going to make a partnership with them just like to spread like the word of self-defense as well so we do have this at the gym it's a partnership with jacquelini and she gives classes only for women twice a week it's awesome what day what day is it though Tuesday and Thursday and evening yeah 6 p.m yeah awesome uh it's not yeah some some women they don't feel comfortable like going like and fighting and practicing with other men because of course Jiu Jitsu it is part of a close contact yeah yeah maybe like few of uh the women want like feel comfortable especially here I think in Europe I think in Brazil it's easier but in Europe I feel like the personal space of the people it's a little bit bigger yeah so you know I I totally get to um and yeah especially especially for a woman and then like some like me I sweat like crazy you know I'm like you see the memes of you know the the guy who's like who's sweating it's like a waterfall that's me so like if if I was wrong with a woman it would be you know it I could see how it would be uncomfortable for them yeah you know I feel like just at the beginning once you like are doing this every day and you feel like you're already sweating as well like you have your things as well you don't even care especially when you're focused on your the techniques you're not thinking oh my God I'm sweating or I'm toting someone else's sweat yeah but it's something that comes with time as well so for the beginning it's better to start like if I'm a woman I would like to do it with another woman yeah and yeah and then kind of once you kind of once you have your your base and your foundation established you'd be a bit more comfortable you know rolling with anybody yeah but like baby steps yeah yeah that's awesome so what about okay so you started this business together is this your first business like you're ever really yeah is this something you wanted to do or did Edson kinda was it my dream like I never thought oh my God I had to open my own business um we add some like he's very business-minded so he he's always something that he finds very interesting right and his sources about it like he he really wanted to do it yeah it was different for me like I never had a dream oh my God I had to I have to open my own thing um but I think I just have to say thank you to him because I didn't know there would you would be that excited exciting like to have my own thing and uh of course like I have to search a lot of things um I feel like I'm still only at the surface of the thing there is still a lot of things I don't know yeah but I'm really enjoying yeah really enjoying it's very exciting I wouldn't say before that I would be like happy but now I'm really enjoying it's it I'm proud to see for example yesterday we went to the competition we had with Edson we had seven people from Legion competing just two of them which is Edson and Rafael just two of them had already been two competitions before the other five they were all like first times and they started digital with us so they haven't tried before and I was very proud of them like it was so nice to see like that we are building this community and like with the feeling of friendship and family like it's very nice yeah it's got to be very satisfying to be building something that is yours yeah rather than you know working for someone else building something that is theirs true yeah and it's like it it's like you know your house you know you can rent a house yeah you know but if you actually own your house or you are buying your house it's yours and you will put that extra effort into and you don't mind working you know late in the evening to you know this is because something's got to get done yeah exactly because it's yours um yeah so that's I I must I would be of a similar mindset to Edson uh one day I I it is my goal to work for myself still don't know what I'm going to do yet maybe this will go viral soon and I can quit my job and you know do this but no just um eventually that's something I want to do um I'm slowly working on it um and I'm fortunate that I do have the the my day job you know I have a good job now and I enjoy it and but long-term aspects you guys are my inspiration so you know keep you guys keep it up um because it'll get it gives other folks you know like myself uh kind of uh if they can do it so can I or they're doing it I can do it too yeah kind of I'm in town I used to think a lot oh my God I can't do it because like I don't have the like I've haven't been to a college like a business college so I hadn't tried this even in my country like with my home language so how can I do it here like in other country another culture in other laws and other language everything is different and I used to be very afraid of it but then now that I'm doing I can see that okay no it's not like we have an expression in Portuguese that says it's not a monster with seven heads like I can't deal with it it's not easy of course it's a lot yeah if not a monster with seven heads yeah but it's not so like other people did it like yeah so I can do it as well you can do it as well you're already doing it the one thing uh you'll notice too is you'll never have people who are trying as well who are starting a business or you you'll never have like other entrepreneurs who are gonna like they're not gonna you know say anything bad they if anything they're going to be encouraging the ones who are gonna you know talk or you know maybe be disencouraging or less encouraging are the people who are just kind of sat there not doing anything they're not realizing their own dreams themselves so they're going to be the the demotivators yeah so like you'll never basically you'll never have someone who's doing better than you criticizing yeah yeah of course yeah I was just like listening to a podcast um the other day I think was Friday that said absolutely liked it that it's just so funny the way that people were like very successful now um with their own business they won't judge you when you start even if you start small which the the things that you have they wanted to they will help you they will give you uh advice and the people who will judge you and say oh my god look that one is crazy like what what are you doing like it's not gonna work are people who are not doing nothing with their lives so it's just yeah it's interesting so yeah it's very nice um so I work with um I work for a company like aesthetic company and at the summer party I was talking with the owner of the company it's a very successful company so they have clinics here in Dublin a bunch of them they have in London and they just open it in America as well so I was asking him for advices and he was like okay you just have to the biggest advice I can give to you don't give up if people laugh on you don't care about us like just don't give up don't be afraid of being juted because you will and he was like okay if you need always need any help just let me know and I can help you so that that's very nice yeah that's awesome okay so you and Hudson you both from Brazil yeah yes and you mentioned you have a Spanish passport as well yeah you live there or no do you get to get that like through family yeah my grandfather it's from my mom okay he was Spanish and yeah I think he was on the time of the Civil War in Spain um he would have to go to war against his own family so he left yeah he left do you know what part of Spain is from uh he was from La Corona it's like North I think it was Galicia I'm not sure yeah it's a beautiful place I haven't been yet no but I really want to go and so he left he went to Brazil and he spent his whole life there he didn't want to leave he really liked Brasilia so I got my passport to him um and it was like so helpful when we came to Ireland so sorry so I guess the reason I asked is like how so when it came to deciding to move here you know how how was that like you you did if I remember correctly you didn't speak English right or maybe just a little bit yeah just a little bit so I couldn't understand a lot okay Netflix helped me wonderfully with that but I was like studying of course yeah in Brazil we learned English on school but it's not great okay so it's like the way in America we learn like Spanish or probably yeah probably but yeah so Netflix helped me a lot but also I was watching a lot of American TV shows yeah so when I came to Ireland it was like I couldn't speak because I was very shy and I was afraid to make some mistakes so I was holding it uh and also like the accent the accent of Irish it's very different the present yeah it does depend on who you talk to oh yeah yeah but at the beginning because my English wasn't like very good I found very difficult really yeah but then with the time like we get it with the time how long have you been here now four years four years yeah very good you know honestly like if you if you would have told me like you grew up speaking English like I would I totally wouldn't believe that for sure definitely I think it's because they talk a lot probably so it's a lot to practice yeah even like I mean you have an accent obviously but it's not it's very subtle so I personally I think English is fantastic but no sorry um moving um so what what I guess what made you guys make the decision to move from Brazil to to hear were there other options were you looking at going to Spain or were you yeah yeah yeah what we're thinking about uh Spain and London as well okay so we're like okay first of all like we wanted to go out of Brazil to have the opportunity to travel meet like get to know other cultures and try a better life as well okay and we didn't know that we if we were sorry we didn't know if we would like to come back to Brazil at some point we still don't not at the moment of course but we didn't know like what to do and then we were searching reading a lot about countries in Europe and London great but it would be difficult with the VISA and a very high cost of life Spain was good but we didn't know how to speak Spanish and the economy wasn't great so then we were like okay let's go to Ireland I already had a cousin living here so we thought okay maybe it would be helpful because I have her there and we were always very close to each other it's lovely I love her and she was a great help when we came here she was a great help and it's part of family as well so it's helpful as well because Brazilians like to be like you're very simply stick together yeah yeah um so you make the decision to move here and then did you have anything lined up like as far as work or did you kind of you kind of came here just figured it out yeah not really we just like we came here of course like I was reading a lot about Ireland and trying to see like get tips from people who are living here already I found a lot of content in YouTube as well on YouTube so it was helpful but we didn't have like nothing we just came here and we're like okay let's do it and we did that that that's cool um you know and here look when I when I moved here it wasn't as it wasn't as big of a change for me because like culturally you know America Ireland UK like we're similar we have a lot of similarities because we speak English yeah you know and like obviously like there are a lot of differences but because we have the site we have a language in common there there are still those same similarities especially like when it comes like pop culture and television and music you know we share all of that so it wasn't as big of a change for me so like whenever I hear of someone moving um you know from another country to you know Ireland for instance and you don't speak the language like that is incredibly Brave and I I it was really crazy it's I think it's awesome it's a testament to you know kind of your personality and your willingness to kind of yeah to to just do it and get on with it and I think that's a great mentality to have for you both in your business you know because you're you need that you know you need to be able to you know kind of weather weather the storm um you know whatever it may be you know whether it be learning English or you know a couple months with you know people not paying their you know their dudes or something like that and you still have bills but you know like you gotta be able to be resilient and weather that out and you know and you have that uh you clearly have that uh you know in you to to do so I think that's awesome yeah I think chance patience yeah patient because uh we came here we didn't know we just got married in Brazil but as we got married and we came to Overland yeah we were not living together there because we wanted to we were leaving between like my parents houses and his mother's house yeah but we didn't have our space so when we came here we had a different life because we were together for five years in Brazil but not married yeah different life a new married different language a different home different everything a lot going on it was a lot and after four months we were here uh trying to like get stable covet hit so it was like everything was closed new pandemic like situation in the whole world and it was like a lot of things together plus because like go through this we cross the bridge and we survived which is amazing and I think we had to have a lot of patience to like guess where we are now yeah and it's helpful yeah yeah looking back now I feel very happy yeah was there any was there an instance where you like just like no we're going back going back home and just enough's enough yeah during Corvette oh yeah I bet that was yeah I was going crazy oh yeah I moved here in the beginning of 2017. all right yeah and um so for the first four three and a half four years I think of living here we lived with my father-in-law which was great like he's an awesome guy but you know like he's different yeah it's not our place and you know we we're newly married as well uh you know so it was tough um thank Widow you know I have a great relationship with him he like I said he's an awesome guy um you know and I am actually now that we're past it like I am happy that we got to stay there because you know because I don't think I would know him as well if you know I didn't have to we didn't have to step on each other's feet every day you know yeah you know so it yeah there was definitely a time where we were both like we need to we need to figure this out and when covet happened oh my goodness it was it was difficult like we were fortunate in that we just bought this house like I think it was like the week the week that we closed and um like you know money was transferred and everything the week after uh that's when the banks were like all right all mortgages like everything's on hold oh so we got very lucky we got very lucky yeah and then we got pre-covered prices too because everything has jumped up as far as far as like interest rates on houses and all that and then just the overall cost of housing so yeah we got we got super fortunate um in that and then we we almost if I remember correctly we almost like we didn't want to wait but we were almost like this isn't gonna happen um you know we're kind of preparing for things to not work out because we were having trouble with the seller um and it just it was a whole thing but yeah then thankfully we got the house and we didn't well I didn't at least have to go back to the States but um but yeah then yeah it was it was a tough time but um I feel like uh I'm gonna we'll wrap this up here um like I I appreciate you coming on I appreciate you you know sharing your Jiu Jitsu story with us and your uh your your what am I trying to say your um Coming of Age tale with Jiu Jitsu you know like you you weren't into it at first you you didn't understand it and then you tried it and then you're like I get it yeah now we clicked yeah so if if anyone likes it we're gonna go inside now and you're gonna preach um I have the flag of like try Jujitsu yeah so is there any is there a piece of advice you would want to leave with someone maybe just specifically women who you know maybe they want to try some sort of combat sport I was full of excuses until the day that I had to because I didn't have other options and now I wish I had started earlier so don't make an excuse go and try as anything in life go try for the first time like it won't kill you if you don't like you don't like you're not forced to keep doing it but just try and then you tell that you don't like don't do like me don't wait nine years um and let me see the other thing is just like for your own safety just like know how to defend yourself even if you don't have like it's very important yeah because um I had the situation right um it was a weekend and I went and someone was working on that day I went to see a house because we were trying to rent a place and I went to see the house and I knocked at the door and the guy was like I was there and he went to show me the house and he was like oh if you want to go in and see I think before Jujitsu I wouldn't probably go or I would go but I would be like very afraid because I would know how to defend myself so I went there he was a very nice guy verbalized but I went there just thinking okay if something happens what do I do with the like small amount of techniques I know from Jiu Jitsu what would I do if he would try to attack me and I felt so confident so these was like when I realized that I want to do Jiu Jitsu like I don't want to stop because if I go to a situation for example when we have kids as well um if I go through a situation that I have to defend myself I would be able to do it even if I don't have a gun or if I don't have a knife or like anything I would know how to defend myself and the people I love so yeah I think that's it excellent thank you so much no worries I appreciate it thank you very much I'd like to talk to you again yeah and some at in some time here I'd like to check back in on you and please it would be a pleasure to come back yeah it's the first time I'm doing this I was thinking okay I won't be able to go into the end of it but it felt very nice thank you I'm very comfortable very welcomed so thank you for that it's a pleasure to be thank you and let's check out guacamativa BJJ uh five free classes they have women's only classes twice a week twice a week twice a week 6 p.m um check them out everything will be linked below so yeah all right thank you thank you thank you laughs [Music]