UFC's Heavyweight Dilemma | Jones Vs Ngannou Chances | UFC Fight Night | Energized Show
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What is up and welcome to the latest Energized Show! On this episode we discuss the problems surrounding the UFC Heavyweight Division, The chances of Jon Jones moving up to face Francis Ngannou & We recap the weekends UFC Fight Night Overeem Vs Harris. Check it out, enjoy…
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Energized Show co-hosts Ross and Mustafa Rusher record during COVID lockdown and open with the UFC heavyweight picture: Francis Ngannou as the top contender, Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic still blocking the belt, and debate over whether Jon Jones will ever move up to fight Ngannou or stay at light heavyweight. They argue Curtis Blaydes is underrated, recall Ngannou’s dull decision win over Derrick Lewis, and say Ngannou has only two fights left on his UFC deal. They favor a Lewis–Ngannou interim rematch and expect DC versus Stipe to end with one man retiring. They also criticize opaque UFC rankings and want more accountability. The bulk of the episode recaps recent Florida cards: Alistair Overeem TKO’d Walt Harris in round two on Overeem’s 40th birthday; Claudia Gadelha beat Angela Hill by decision; Shane Burgos edged Edson Barboza in another debated scorecard; plus middleweight, bantamweight, welterweight, and flyweight results including Kevin Holland’s 31-second finish and Andrea Lee’s historic women’s flyweight armbar. They praise the UFC’s pandemic return, compare matchmaking favorably to boxing, tease UFC 250 coverage with a guest, and ask listeners to subscribe as the channel nears 300 subscribers.
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[Music] [Laughter] let's go guys welcome to a new episode of shows the show back oh thanks that makes me feel like I'm a guest aboard the co-host well that's my taking her inner wolf of wallstreet world a little said take my lead and Ross what's the story whenever you give another another day in lockdown I mean although a different day in lockdown always sort of one look you see heavyweight rankings because I think that's what's the hot topic moment and over the last few events you've had and reach over doom for alien Aynak you've had I've see over him and be Walt Harris and then you also had in Ghana who ad feet rose and stroke so a lot of the headways have been action been Roswell also be OSP in a heavyweight bill as well so che said we don't want a Sherman the UFC heavyweight division you know it's actually hot as ever right now unlike the heavyweights are very reactive also a sense for the heavyweights to stay active during the pandemic because then they they're they struggle with the way equal the least so we sort of have this division being held up boy Dino Cormier and CB me outage no day has been sold for that ste pace are saying oh you know being a first responder and so forth at like what James closed everything shut down and Cleveland I'm waiting for it to reopen for that and that's sort of his excuse Daniel Cormier dobbsy at TLC most weekends doing his commentary so he's ready to rock I don't think he fancies and Ghani and Ghani who's like the normal one contender absolutely undisputed song called him the uncrowned champion do anything is Barry right DC's got a voice deep a and regardless who wins both my little retire efforts no so do you who do you actually think and garni we should fight for the belt cuz if you look at the rankings here number three is curved blades he's not here mu mg twice Junior dos Santos be him Derrick Lewis that was not his suit snoozefest Rosa strikes like yeah she ran to him but I'll cover don't think is coming off win over him he like knocked mayor the Octagon Walt Harris has lost a lien a look actually like he's not a bad shape well he actually did like recently you know floss to Walt Harris on over him and then like you sort of go to lower end the scale and like no one's going to pay for you with the rest of their names like AB Durham a carve Egon of sake Pavelec and then obviously for numerous last I didn't you so like is it gonna be Francis and Gandhi versus Jonny bones Jones the heavyweight belt because John Jones called him it I kind of pictured John Jones making his debut in the heavyweight division against Francis Indiana I thought of its for the belt though I know but I think this whole talk of going to heavyweight was like right BTC and I can beat me outage but like the freight train of Francis again who were attacking you with a windmill four-component just like for your head to head with debut I don't know like I can see him putting on the back for the back burner for a while you know they're just blades actually probably one the most low-key head weights of all time because the at fighting game twice if it wasn't for Milan Karl France and Gandhi we leave him in one contender would you like seeing a new verse Derrick Lewis again yeah but for what make in galleries now at the top so yeah well I'm surprising guy and Ghani only has two folks left on GC deal we said that after his last four you thinking why not have them boy again very very fast like Derrick leaves beam by decision so oh yeah nobody will not variously well yeah no one warned Porsche like that makes sense or if you want to do an interim title but I don't think the folk to be that boring again if it was for a title or again five rounds oh my god I could be four rounds of I don't I think in Gandhi was changed now I think he's like I'm gonna freight train straightaway for the you know just take over five rounds and is someone's gonna have to do like like the famous mai tai and say famous by poison saying if you go for the finish you're not gonna win the decision yeah so I go I go okay grandad saw me also that then I take Lewis versus and gone in 4d intim total yeah cuz he or else he is gonna be sitting out and like who doesn't want to see Francis encounter in the Octagon yeah if you give a [ __ ] if he employer he was like the hostage get the job don't you know man yeah there we go I think that's retirement for you DC versus TV I know I know look Steve Lee said if he didn't have hob like his Ollie injury and whatever else he was hard by now anyway himself although like you said before we see with Dominic Rosen's hero and like it's AMA Cruz was probably couldn't be like always got a rhetoric a like we both read away yeah but whoever wins the other person comes like I retired - yeah so if you trust in that way I'll go for that then I'll go for that I can't see I don't see the John John's things happen until I get for the interim title you know I think he's like on he can just hold out and just keep keep winning their Android weight division you know I would be if I wouldn't be in a rush reinforce John John's especially in gerrymander because everyone wants us to see him every once C John drones get that haymaker yeah yeah yeah oh meaningful life John John's knows that like he could just put a look like a no way people who are not taking and then just defend this local he doesn't have also the more he talks about Israel Adesanya the more he can stay in that division as well yeah someone fight in France Israel and said he'd for its deep a I was like I'd watch stuff yeah when there's sort of it the heavyweight division where I'm no planning when like alas isn't Ghana Derek Lee was arose and Troy Mike mmm not too sure and that's seem like who does the Reem Queen a point now like dream is it's so funny to eat away the Ryan's work cuz the regime is ranked number eight but I want obviously he will move up the rankings having come in since a Saturday and I tutor Santos is right number four and obviously ream knocked him out poor Santos lost last he fights to play it's handing on it so like the rain gonna move the whole way up to number four not sure I'm not sure it's because that was a good way on the weekend but it wasn't overly impressive yeah trailer wasn't it wouldn't be don't sort of blow your socks off and then like Rosen's Troy Derrick Lewis you know in there are five and six where's the Rheem go and like does he read like Lee Prague roses Troy straightaway she did the heavyweight division is so something was like all he beat him in him but he beat me and then he lost him but they now maybe him and he beat him and I lost them like they've all like beaten each other yeah if you know me one Machoke like it is like a domino effect to recitation as well which is which is clear and then obviously Fabricio Werdum came in right number 15 he's newly ranked after UFC 249 he'll obviously we walk to the vision I was talking those on with the rankings cost I think it's safe to say he's ahead of Liguria enough I'm Saki definitely agree with that you were talking about all your friends isn't guaranteed by the way have you seen him on Mike Tyson's podcast no I haven't watched it I was good oh man so but I guess so the Mike Tyson get six he's so emotional all the time like you can almost trigger Mike Tyson put a like of the you wanna do it up or like he gets so deep and emotional and like we're friends again kind of ready knows what to say and because obviously English isn't his first language definite get out this it was super for yeah Duff right there where I yeah definitely or is there any else wanna talk about before we get into the weekend's action now well one last thing go just was no country Rankin's there right I think you see actually have like Tate the rankings off these tournaments I'm like what doesn't you have ESPN do the rankings like they're on ESPN it weighs almost more sense but clover just like convince me we can't Lee Smith answer Smith's trying for clovers right update yeah but have they updated the rankings I'm not sure I think I'm not healthy to be updated every Monday or Tuesday I think Wednesday we actually owe people like we'll see when did those rankings come in but it's been all trading up or I'll be very interested with a they get right or I think it should almost be more official it's time I sense I know people say it is off a ship or it should be more people who are making the rankings need to be held responsible for the rankings I feel like it's like anonymous post yeah like so it's like the a jury yeah later George's to show be like and yeah the Facebook mob yeah so speaking of Q g20 go into this weekend's action yeah go for okay yeah okay roster we made so start at the very very top seem as you were talking about two heavyweights Alistair Overeem Warren on his 40th birthday again in this world Harris he got a TKO in the second round let's make this woman yeah over him always also tend to have been there there we always really terrified to be knocked out yeah yeah I'm sure you would be yeah what Paris cotton with some nice big shots at early on the fight over him wasn't down I was like that's probably over yeah yeah you can actually see the difference in class when Overeem got Harris them big head kick and then follow up with people just he was so much better on the ground then Harris that Harris was never getting up it was almost like a disappointing finish because it was such sort of timid punches to get the job done although in Paris I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of them either yeah we both would poke on it to this way we both picked over each win and beat are the wild hairs maybe with the stuff that was going on behind the scenes with his family that it might play it might affect I'm pulling at the end they just turned out to be a flip of the coin they're not yeah it was who lands heavier and who lands first yeah then the women strawberry division card you get a warm boy decision against Angela Hill something like this like if we have to add a few so challenges don't leave it in the hands of the Georges rush watchmaker this one or actually hate that phrase huh that one well I just think that like the Georgians should we like compliment and well pay but you shouldn't actually be fearful that like the dosage or scorecard you'll get screwed over and I don't think anyone was screwed here I thought it was quite a toy fight at all Claudia warned and warned thought she was gas named round tail hell took that one and then ran three was tight enough oh if everyone scored for Hill or I don't think it was like the biggest robbery of all time I know I like pre-fight I went for Claudia I think you did as well yeah I thought actually Hill actually will not fight to be honest yeah I agree which I thought hello woman ball I don't think it was you know no one was there with the with the batter for a bomb I know yeah like it I think really if there were only sort of battling for the titles people tend to cause murder yeah that's cool anyway well Guan Yi I was gonna say the feather way to him yeah and there was another controversial decision yeah exactly and feds vision Tariq people can't calm down a gay against SM proposed I know it won't buy decision Ross another one that people who say below consecration yeah well I think this one all came down to who you thought won the second round I think everyone sort of thinks barboza won the first round and then Danny like warned third round he got to take down about halfway through the final round Mike stop our boys won the second round atop the most or talent shot was see him with a big body kicked in the second round and I thought that was enough to get the job done that I was clinched work was golden round two Barboza but then again I was also picking Barboza an Oprah Barboza during the fight so sometimes I wonder am I being too biased in the middle of a fight yeah I was over probably Bose as well I would be if you could see him get away division maybe take on max Holloway some stage border I know like he was so serious hurting him as well on there he wasn't giving up so does propose to stay in that division now or what what's your thing I think he does I think you should get a free pass to your first weight quote and I think he'll go again to be interesting to see does he actually get in the rankings on sort of recognition alone I mean yeah well you sort of look and go barbells class that's another thing right I know don't go back and rankings poor Torah would be like knocked out or why he did not have what he's ranked number fifteen and Dominic Reyes was ranked 15 before the top Seagate you in the toil sort of you know ports he has to be in the rankings right but Donna gray is a lost a split decision to John Jones he's not right in the pan rankings but a little eggie you basically always got a draw and some people thought you warned against the payment paradigm were warned she knew I actually pay him fair number two for he'd this is reported this isn't our problem to sort a report it yeah it is on we like to discuss and for us also in the middleweight division Jost me Christoph Jaco defeated Erica Enders for decision I wasn't making this for it and also was it did you think before he was as impressive as choco celebration no Jacko's breakdown such as top the range I think he's up there were there pumps I think it was Mullins in the current act of middle of a roster oh I like choco I think he's very solid middleweight and he sorta gets the job dawn I think the thing with jakka was hoodie you know break down the barrier of cracking those guys in the tote and google him breaking it down yeah so he would've Lucy chuckling sex maybe try him in there at Aaronson see how he gets on there and it would be a form scrap obviously pumped it's gonna try and wrestle him I'd like to see him you know for a fight over you know most wins and the current middleweight active roster yeah yeah I think ja code like it you can see he was way more of a nitch martial arts than their calendars and I'm sort of the decision then and Federer way to vision young a song you dong who did for even though people thought Roy a favor was gonna step in instead he defeated random variable decision a lot of people had this Rivera as well are us all we actually thought it was this was less of robbery I think fair just kicked up an awful force to make people don't maybe he won't well I thought their song won round one too I thought one round three which thought maybe ran three was the most source of RAM for Vera and I always think that's a thing like when you read so she wouldn't third round of the fight people go but well and in sort of Street rules this fight if they fall forever yeah very pop you were warned yeah a lot of people have that with the Diaz McGregor two for it as well yeah and also Amanda Nunez versus Shevchenko what's up yeah then rough in the welterweight division my brown lost to megabase a man this is a scrap this was a brilliant combat from Niger boy is it for that my brown sort of come across as if this chin was sort of gone but I think his chin has been gone for a while and he's been collar so for like mapper and I saw a grass of robot equals only swinging or look gray finished gray a left hook and that's all she wrote he would see map around the drops you're like that's it came over yeah then in the middleweight division to Dana what contender series veterans you could say anthing around there's lost to Kevin Holland and in 31 seconds Milan camera Holland is the issues yeah see he said he's gonna trapped into where hell's away after he's six foot four he yeah he's like skinny in anyway he says gonna do it so twig-boy then inflation geeky cards a the georgian bloke oh yeah I was like what is defeated erewan Riviera everyone Riviera came in a short notice he gets he has a he looks very very impressive pretty big anyway maybe because they're almost a small pool their money he him against another Astana fighter will be a great watch yeah absolutely and who knows he might actually fall ace land where you just beat down elephants that bugle fight why not like also time wise it works he absolutely Laurie dog down elephant's boy don't I have much praise you get that because I feel like if like you know boys aunty I'll punch turned out cuz of the face he peed everywhere yeah that's the for exactly that that was the one just before that in the fairway is Darren Elkins last decision against Nate land where Russell I know the blood was everywhere in this one very very girls for what I'm do you think the very personal decision yeah definitely at all the damage did well around warm what like as the fight went on LimeWire actually had like the gas tank to go with elegance I always think that was Elkins team like here better gas tank the most people pull the damage got damaged badly in this fight he did the truth avoid this being kept saying that was like him saying we were damaged and it was like you what are you the person use not word come join Newsday for one you know it's like rock to her but yeah though that was brilliant for to watch like very graceful correct like uh a lot of people were eating her feel about watching that a court case he also won the flyweight division against me yeah first ever armbar in the photo weight revision history women's flyweight division so fair play to her she got a foot bones for that one as well and then Rodrigo Nascimento for air fitted on tail maze in Sacramento submission and urgency is for it so I actually missed that one as well for them roster wraps off the three days tree tree events in a week in Florida there is meant to be an event on this weekend but we won't know until later on the week I would almost said it was an overload were like we were like so like spared event made for so long and I was like I'll take it although I almost wouldn't like liked it to be a flip as in like you see people done was decidedly and it had to like me do cards and then you had the big one but I felt like we were blessed with sort of gold card that like re dampen my interest in the other cards yeah good hopefully it is back this week ever like it was like you had the main course on the dessert first then you're like all right here there's two starters from last week and ozera obviously if the next card is you see 250 we're gonna have we're gonna have someone else on the show as well to break that down as well hopefully if there's a funny card this week we'll get someone else in the show for the hem what did you make it over the last week of action or else overall before we end the show and to be honest it's crazy you see back they seem to be doing great steps and terms of go at low instance of that and I thought the fighter rerecord especially UFC to you for annoying and fair play to you have Seifer sort of set in the standard exactly I saw that like time so we in the part of the boxing scene like all the top boxers don't really fought each other and then people's records get patented but then when you look the way to enjoy then white ruins things in USA is the best one the best and the I think after this freak I think makes virus where especially OC is just a gold box and now you know because like hookah bottom put on right now that everyone being tree boy fire the heavyweights for you yeah well there's not much more than intrigue sorry yeah like as I'm like if you see 250 was on and you couldn't pull it like any headway for it on in boxing maybe is it made mistake canal triple G 3 like that would be something I'd be like brilliance and there's a few Waltons that like you know Errol Spence poison or you know Manny Pacquiao fight and that I'd be like yeah great for like very few and far between you know a Mike Tyson again some van der Holyfield tree Charles I don't actually see that fight I should tell you know this I've seen it under I only filled you in feels I'm actually just don't like um like as of late it's that made sense he's so only interested in women's like boys you redo them in the first place yeah I think he's very very point shrunk and like yeah you know a lot of those kids I like to call the commander van de vivre and uh Yvonne de like they'd like their Ollivander something you mean Yvonne yeah yeah just go check it out I think is like knowing kids know that sort of wraps up the show yeah and it went on a lot longer than they expected it was great oh yeah well like I think the audio version I'm gonna put our full and further videos I think I'll chop it into a co-ed football and MMA brilliant yeah wanna yeah so ladies and gents mustafa rusher on the rocky road - it hasn't subscribers on youtube if you watch this on youtube or if you're on Spotify make sure to subscribe because we're nearly on tree under there yeah yeah appreciate if you subscribe because once it gets a certain amid the 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