Iain Liam Ward | Surviving Brain Cancer & World Record Ambitions | Energized Show

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What is up and welcome to the latest Energized Show! On this episode we have Iain Liam Ward on the show. Iain tells us his story about how he found out he had brain cancer, survived it and how he now aims to break two world records for the London marathon. This isn't one of our…

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Kind: captions Language: en okay what's going on guys and welcome to a brand new episode of energized ross we have a very special guest on the show and it's actually not chocolate dale sun no it is not we have uh ian ward in is gonna try and break two world records in the next year or two so uh ian you're very very welcome yeah are you feeling me on lads and today feeling uh much much better the the chemo correct fine the answer was energized the answer was energized oh how are you getting on i feel like an energizer bunny oh lover lover perfect yeah okay it looks beautiful close enough i'll just give a bit of a background right um myself from us obviously do a show every week so for people that are new to the show has gone um and then ross sent me on a message saying ian got contacted because he has this unbelievable story uh myself and ross do try and push like mental health and um like we've told november numerous times as well and we'll be doing it this year as well ross you know i mean for that yeah ian got onto us and he sent them like something very serious and uh i know this is one isn't one of our typical shows but um when someone reaches out with a story like this you can't help but take notice and uh invite them on the show so ross you take it away but well maybe all you shouldn't take away maybe we should let you take away it is his story very true do you want to tell us bring us to what was the 22nd of july yeah but you haven't mentioned that it's all about being the clontarf heavy sticking together well yeah of course it on the podcast well everyone knows and enjoys uh support the oysters and support their own so you know i mean that's a given that's a given and uh when you when you told us your story it was incredible story and i was like that's a story that needs to be told so uh do you want to tell us what happened yeah i'll take it away so the um i live over in london and i've been doing medical trials for ages just because it's a handy way to make money for like little to no effort you put up with some annoying stuff from time to time but you're essentially uh you're completely autonomous you spend your day spent doing whatever you want so if you've got a lot of backload of admin that you have to do you can just get it done there and once that depends on what you do so like if you go in and it is a the best one that i did for how handy it was was a hiv vaccine but i didn't even have to spend any of the night time in the hospital i went in and took the vaccine i think they kept me for an hour and then buggered off and then every week i would go in and give them a blood test so it would be how are you going in you show us your arm all right off you go and then they paid me a hundred quid not in cash or anything like that every single week and then i added up and then i got like three grand for i remember calculating it it was something like three grand for uh 20 hours including actually walking to the hospital and back and then that put me on a flight to peru so pretty decent there money to get so you're a professional guinea pig for a while oh god yeah well it was just because i am i do fitness classes and i never liked working as a personal trainer because i found that it was a you're constantly just telling people the same thing people always come in and they just want to want weight loss and i got very uh disheartened by that and i found when i was teaching fitness classes it got to be a lot more competitive might not be the best word but it got to be a lot more sort of real for what i wanted to be teaching and so in in england anyway the way they teach you or the way they pay with um fitness classes they usually pay you quite well but the disadvantage of it is that it's never going to be a nine to five job because it's based around people who have nine to five jobs so you'll do your fitness classes early in the morning around the lunch break and then in the evening so while you get paid decent wage for the hour you usually have a lot of spare time that you'd want to spend somewhere productive and so i would always be looking for a little um sort of cheeky ways to make uh the extra money that would be able to get me not just living a an existing surviving but like you know actually have a proper life to to live in terms of cash and so uh yeah i started doing the the guinea pig stuff out of that and uh sure it's ended up like practically saving my life so i have a number of reasons why in a way to promote it yeah can you tell us tell us exactly how it saved your life so i went in and they before you do any medical scans and they make sure that you are like as healthy as possible for them to detect and what i was going in for was something to do with sleep uh i think and so they were saying it was something to do um i think it was a schizophrenia medication and the way that they that like first of all apparently that scary people to be like i'm not going in for a schizophrenia medical examination but it is they require someone without any form of schizophrenia in order to see what normal brain waves look like and i was actually in another medical trial that was to do with sleep three months before and they had this thing on my head that looked like a scrum cap and it was to uh i think it was a ct scan was what it was called so it was actually looking at brain waves and during that scan they didn't actually detect that there was anything wrong with my head so i had absolutely no uh symptoms whatsoever i didn't have headaches i didn't have dizziness and i didn't forget things randomly nothing and then when i went in to do this mri scan they um they were then able to say hey you you have a tumor in your head and i was so shocked by that like completely taken aback like what like i don't know a tumor like there's no swelling right in there and then um somewhat so that i was then saying to them well um do i get to do this medical trial then and they were like uh no you need to go to the doctor and get a second check on that very quickly even though you're not feeling anything so i'm here like fine i won't do this you never you you never had like any inkling and all that like there you have something that's humorground nothing at all like no zero nothing absolutely still don't still don't have any symptoms of it whatsoever the only symptoms that i have had are things that are directly related to all my chemotherapy and my brain surgery so it's like all to be expected but still nothing to do with the fact that it is technically cancerous a cancerous tumor so i went in and then it was i had a second appointment to to have straight after the uh the first detection and then covered kind of came in and made that a more a far more delayed um appointment originally it was only meant to be like a month but uh because covert stepped in and because it was detected and from the images that they had they said this is benign so it's not an emergency like when when he was talking to me over the phone the doctor saying we found a benign tumor they were saying and what do you first think what that was said to you like well are you upset like not really because i just said it was uh was taken aback and i was like well what does that mean because i i had no idea what it what it meant to have a brain tumor because if it wasn't giving me any if i had gone in and i was like i'm having really bad headaches and then they said yeah we found out you have a tumor i probably would have like you know absolutely like you know bricked it myself because it's like well does that mean that i've got like four days to live or something yeah because i had no symptoms it was like uh am i in danger and then he said no not really you um what we're gonna what is normally happens when things are like this are detected is they're monitored and monitored monitored and you get some treatment for it and and then you'll normally live a perfectly normal life some things you won't be able to do you won't be allowed fly a plane you won't be allowed to join um the the fire department and it's like ah i kind of wanted to do that but i mean it's not the end of the world and how did your family react um oh i didn't tell them the first time because it was it was benign my dad's a worrier so i was like there's no need to add this in i'll be at home and i'll be like having a drink over christmas and they'll be like is that not bad for you is that not bad for you you can't do that don't do that so i was like let me just avoid that air that minefield for now and then when the second uh i went in for the second appointment about six months later just when covered was finally sort of not going down in how many people were affected but down in terms of the the hospitals were then getting a handle on um how to how to manage it and when they brought me back in and they did the second scan they were like oh this seems like it's still benign but it is growing and so while they did say down the line you might need brain surgery they said okay well you actually need brain surgery now uh again it's completely optional you don't have to do it and but it's advised and so i was like all right well i mean if it's advised then then let's do it when they said no do they mean there and then uh no i kind of would have preferred if it was uh there and then to be perfectly honest because it would just be like you know this is happening in the hospital go go do it yeah go do it right now because the whole thing they said was like from the six months before to now instead it's growing and they he showed to me like you know i know you can see the image here and it looks a little bit bigger but you gotta remember that it is a tumor so it comes in in a spherical object so a little bit bigger on a spherical object means that it's actually far larger like think about it in planets if a planet is that big but then it's actually this big it's probably twice its mass so he was saying your tumor has grown by 30 percent so when they said all right we'll book it in uh it'll be a month i was like i don't want to wait another month if it grew 30 in six months then that means that it was like what five percent so it should be 35 percent larger if i wait another month so i was like do it now but like it's the nhs and it's during covert so i wasn't going to start like you know i need to have this right now this is not pointing as you told your family then at that stage a little bit so after that happened i was like okay how do you tell them a little bit well i still waited a while because it was my bro i found that out on like the 22nd of may and my brother's birthday was the 20s uh i'm sorry my brother's birthday was the 22nd of may and i found this out on the 20 sorry 26th good god and so i was there thinking ah i don't want to muck up his birthday so i'll wait till that passes because they my brother has two kids so my my parents lived nearby so the whole family would have been up and like having a a lovely time so i didn't want this sort of um elephant in the room it wouldn't have been an elephant in the room they would have said something to her but it would have been like you know well this is spoiled the party so i was like i'll wait till after that and then and then let them know i was also considering not telling them whatsoever and then just sort of calling them after the surgery like hey i'm just out of hospital it all went well and then tell them what happened because i mean you can't hide a scar yeah i don't think i don't think they'd thank you for that you know they probably wouldn't have but at the same time it would have been like they wouldn't have to have gone through any worry and then also because of covert i knew if i tell them they're gonna want to come over and they're in their 60s so they are they're not in the elderly category but they're closing in on it so they would be more uh risky and ireland was handling covert a lot more strictly than the uk so i was worried that if they come over they're more likely to get it so that was a factor as well but it was a it was mostly i hate the idea of uh people being like constantly asking me are you okay though are you doing okay i i know you're going through a thing that i'm not going to mention but are you okay i can't stand that stuff so i wanted to try and avoid it as much as possible and i kind of felt like if i tell my parents probably gotta i asked for advice from my my mates back in ireland like should i tell my parents now or should i tell them a little bit later and then i was like all right well if i tell them i've got to tell the outer family as well because loads of them live in london so it would be unfair it would seem like i'm cutting them off and then it kind of became the thing oh well if i tell them i have to tell them and i have to tell them and then my cousins have have we're in similar friend circles over here as well so it's like you're just gonna have to tell everybody there's no way you're getting around this and did did you ever consider moving home at any stage when all this is going on nah um not really like there was because i i knew straight away like being home is great but once you're once you've lived alone moving home no matter how cool your parents are and i do get along with parents but there's just little things that then sort of take little steps on your independence and it's not their fault it's not like they're being unreasonable in what they're asking but it just sort of makes you feel like a child yeah you're right parents are pain and pain pain the hole sometimes and i literally the last christmas that i was here i had to actually say that [Laughter] well uh i'm not there yet but hopefully at some point but the uh over christmas the yeah it would have been no it would have been last year wouldn't be 2019. at one point i actually had to go up to my brother's house and just stay there for a couple of nights and he wasn't even in the house his uh his wife was from cork and he had gone down to cork with her and i was like i just need a break i just need to get out i just need to like you know be able to watch a film without someone coming in and being like why did you not clean up that place we clean up the plate straight after you've eaten from it it's like ah yeah i guess like obviously you're 31 now and um like after you after you went and got the operation i'll like what goes through your head when you're like going to bed you know like you sort of like there's so much stuff i haven't done or so much stuff i wanted to change like what like what what sort of goes to your head now looking forward you know yeah well like the sort of the idea the book at this thing um didn't really come into my head too much because i kind of wrote a bucket list when i was younger just for the for a laugh but like there's not really much on there that it's like you know see the pyramids there was never really anything like that that was um uh something that could be solved with going out there and just you know taking buying a flight ticket to somewhere so i was like uh none of that really bothers me and at the time um after my brain surgery i had made a load of videos that i hadn't edited or uploaded from my channel and so the idea was was that if i am if i have problems with my speech it will go undetected because i am releasing videos that i previously shot but um so like go uh go without noticing that i had the surgery but then when my speech healed so quickly i was like all right i can speak now so i may as well continue making the videos and if i'm going to do that uh someone is going to see the gigantic scar on the side of my head so i may as well address that and i thought the way i would address that would be to um start pushing a small charity for the macmillan cancer society because they were they were sending me but they still are sending me money once a week to just sort of uh get by in comfort so that's what the original plan was but then when i went in for my second meeting and they were like okay we've finally done a biopsy on the tumor even though it's great that you've recovered like miraculously from your speech we thought that that would last six months to a year uh you know your speech is brilliant speech is pretty like you're absolutely perfect it's back to normally it's because when they said that the um the surgery that you're going on uh in for we don't do this to young people it's very rare and what's even far more rare like twice as like 60 times as rare as that is that you're coming in here with no symptoms so my surgeon he deals with like three people a week he has a large content or a large amount of people who he has dealt with and he said that there was one other person in his whole career that not only he had worked with but he had heard of that was my age and went into surgery asymptomatic so he was saying you you have this tumor that we are now classing at stage three but because with same with the brain surgery we thought that it would take x amount of time and it hasn't you've recovered so much faster because you're young that while we say you've got six years on but they didn't say you always have to ask we like on paper the estimate would be six years on average but the average person that we're taking that data from is in their 60s so you have a young person's brain so it's like we have no idea how long um you if this is going to affect you all we're all our knowledge is based off of um data on people that are not in your demographic so we have an idea but it's not solid at all yeah is this her editor in any sort of way like or did you tell your parents and family after and so they could go get checked as well um no the the the doctor when he said you've got a tumor and straight away he was like and we have no idea how you got it these are completely we have not discovered why they are how they are uh detectable we don't know if it was you know there's loads of rumors like you know oh it's having mobile phones it's having this it's having that and they were like we have absolutely no idea what caused this so don't start looking um for reasons in your in your like i wouldn't say past life like it's a sort of a chromatic thing but like don't look back in your past and think oh maybe it was this maybe it was you know maybe it was not enough cigarettes you know did you ever consider that equipment the medical trials and you were taking of like random drugs well that's one thing that i would have thought had they not said we have absolutely no idea what has caused this and also i never took all the medical trials that i did none of them were to do with uh brain stuff so again it would have given me a big reason to not think that because it was like uh stuff stuff to do with a paracetamol medication a fake power or a new paracetamol medication and they gave me fake um dead bacteria so when your body has dead bacteria it still is provoked to have an immune response as if it's real bacteria so you get the fever you get the uh the sort of the thing that the flu is famous for you get those symptoms but then it dies off so quickly because it's like your body is able to tell oh these are dead bacteria false alarm shut down all the um defense mechanisms and uh i can't remember all the other ones off the top of my head but would you have given them a list of the stuff that you've gone in and previously been traded for they would have already had a medical list of that because it's all on the same um medical register and what about and what about like what would you like obviously you're into fitness and stuff would you have done like steroids or like like the oxygen stick would you would you smoke cigarettes as well no i never actually smell i like i smoked cigarettes the odd time when i was drunk but like i would be shocked if it was enough uh enough cigarette i like over the course of my life i would say it's definitely under 40 cigarettes because i would never even smoke a whole one myself it would be like i'm gonna have a drink oh yeah yeah only in the leather jacket just for the tinder profile and then uh ian you said you were stage three how many stages are there and what are the difference between stages for people who don't know i'm i wouldn't be able to tell you the difference in the stages all i know is that there is four and i can't remember i need to ask them again in the next meeting because they said this uh the tumor is uh not cancerous but then when i looked up what the thing is defined as um ins in some some of the places that i looked it up it's a glioblastoma and i was like okay well here it's classed as cancer and then looked somewhere else was like okay here it's not cloud cancer and so i'm sure i need to ask my um the next time i go it's not like it makes any difference to me because they said this is the amount of uh years that we predict that you have and that's what i've been basing my um sort of thought process off so if they said um it doesn't matter what they've said and like you have cancer you don't have cancer because it's still the same amount of time that you have left so it's like it wouldn't really make much of a difference to me and what was their latest sort of prediction on that the latest prediction uh was when it was from the original one so they haven't changed what they uh predicted was like in our life expectancy and treatments and all that sort of thing so i will be getting an mri there very soon and then there'll be a meeting afterwards but i would imagine nothing will be different in what that mri will determine because i was only thinking about this earlier on with with different forms of cancer you can usually have a sort of a hopeful expectation that it will go undetected now they never say that you're cancer-free they just say that the tumor is no longer visible with scans so meaning that it's a tiny aspect of whatever is in your body but it is still very likely to still be in your body it's almost guaranteed to still be in your body and that's what remission is remission is when they they do another scan because they'll constantly be scanning you and they do another scan and they're like okay it's come back so with uh brain cancer though there's never any moment where they're like hey we're no longer detecting the tumor because they can't hit the brain tissue with the same level of intensity as if you had colon cancer or if you had lung cancer because uh you can your lung can heal your colon can heal you can even lose a lung and lose a significantly large part of your colon and you'll still be able to live fine but i mean i don't think it takes any brain surgeons to know that if you lost a huge chunk of your brain you wouldn't be operating um properly so when they actually do the brain surgery the whole point is not to take as much of the tumor away as possible it's to take um it's the the main goal is to take as little brain tissue as possible that is tumorous so how's your meant to help in over this because like i can't help but listen to you and just feel like really sad because i'm like it's matter in the world like you're just constantly focused on everything like i'm sure ross you're the same like you're like right your sole aim is to make sure teo as again well to be honest this is from from my point of view i almost see it as the opposite way uh like well from listening to ian's story i don't actually feel sad it makes me feel very lucky on my situation i know it gives me a far more positive outlook on life but only because listen to ian being so positive i wouldn't want to think that i start talking to someone they go oh it's like no no no the worst thing in the world no it's more like it's more like like like the way you're so your own and then the way that's just sort of happening and like obviously looking at your stuff online you're so like out there and they're so uh yeah you're always in great form but like at the end of the day you're the only person that goes into the room whatever who else is into the in the room as well but i mean you're the only person who looks in the mirror and it's like like how are you actually feeling like is like as i've gotten too much you're like i've broken down any sort of stage and you're like right let's go again or have you really really sat down and taken it all in you know this is a big big transition in your life honestly not really because it all goes with the the lack of symptoms it means that it's sort of i'm i've been thinking about this laws and i don't think it's some sort of huge sense of like overwhelming courage and bravery that i need to get over this i think it's just like when you can't see what's the enemy it's difficult to have the fear of it so it's like there's loads of incidents of people that are um there's something dangerous coming in at them and because they can't see it yet they're all sort of still behave like you know it's part of the reason why covet is like as has so many problems it's because when people aren't being affected by it they're like ah you don't need these masks like you know i don't need to wash my hands and then all that keeps going on until like you know someone in their family gets covered they're like okay maybe i need to wear the masks and wash my hands so it's like it only sort of feels um personal unreal until something like that has happened to them so it's the same sort of thing where nothing is different in how i'm able to act in life and when they're saying the chemo and the radiotherapy fair enough that is different it makes me uh it makes me feel really groggy and tired but they've said this will pass it's like it's almost completely unlikely especially with you being as young as you are that you won't make a full recovery from the negative symptoms of this treatment you probably won't go through the worst of the the symptoms because of your age so you'll get a very light uh touch on this one and it's so far it has been true the only thing that i'm waiting on now is for this side of my hair to grow back everything else has been um sprang back to normality i'm back to the normal level of energy in the morning my diet was never really affected by it much but there's no longer any uh feelings of sickness or nausea so it's it's basically like a very long hangover and then like obviously this is where you go in contact with russ and you're you told them what your plan coming up is in 2022 uh hopefully yeah yeah i mean we don't know how cobb it's going to affect things but uh i was going to do the uh 2021 london marathon but just to sort of do it as a promotional thing and it's unrealistic that i would be fit enough to try and break the the second world record or have enough of a um have enough of an audience and get enough of donations in order to break the first one so i was like all right maybe a year it's achievable if you are laser focused on it and worst case scenario you don't achieve it that year you just try another year and you'll probably be fitter by that stage and even though it would be me starting the uh the funding would go back down to zero and restart i think the thing that i'm the the premise of how i think i'm going to succeed in this is by having a large audience that i can do live streaming events to uh and entertain them and find little trigger points for being like like think of the exact same thing with like the the uh us or the um the ufc drinking game i never played it myself but it's like you know every time uh the the announcer says it's time you've got to drink a shot so do the exact same format but like you know um one that i was the original idea that i was going to have was a play the game call of duty war zone and anytime i get a head shot because i have my own headshot you've got to donate like five euro five pound five dollar whatever uh not really that's what i'm okay i'm manageable and so that was the whole kind of premise is that i'm not that good so if i like it's the whole thing of like how about instead of the normal thing that people would follow on youtube which is an excellent player why follow why not follow like a mediocre player and his journey to become decent at it and then so it's like every time i get a head shot you've got to donate the money and so that was the premise of it like if you have a large audience say maybe a hundred thousand people are watching that and you do a lot of different stuff another one i wanted to do was go out to berlin and do the berlin marathon except you're only allowed to do it uh drinking beer rather than drinking water and get a load of people to do that as well and then get a load of people to do it recorded and then every time you pass by three miles or every time you um down a pint that's when the prom point is for people to um to donate and you can either have it like you know every time you make three miles without getting sick you've got to donate every time you do get sick you've you've got to donate something like that where it's basically like someone's watching an episode of jackass except they're being asked to cure cancer and that that's uh that's the london marathon 2022 you're going to do well the london 22 one is very serious one that's me just running um running the race as well it's just me running the race the second part of the world record that i'm trying to break is marathons are open for fun little charitable things and what the guinness book of world records added into that was they then legitimized all these world records that your average joe can end up achieving now they do get harder and harder and harder uh as the years go by because more people do them but if you dress up as something the guinness book of world record will let you be the fastest person dressed as that thing so you can like wear a suit and it's like the fastest person to run a marathon in a suit and that one's actually quite hard someone's doing that very quickly but they've got loads of different things they've got like loads of soldiers do ones that are um fastest marathon with like 80 um 80 pounds on their back so like 40 40 kilos on their back and people do things like fastest dressed as a a horse so there's two people you know like dresses the horse thing that's how fast they do how fast is them kicking a ball like mad stuff like that people do they could never give you that one in dublin because if someone saw you doing that in dublin someone will come around volley your ball out of the way they will [Laughter] when i heard of the ball one i thought like that is so dangerous for everyone else around them because if you kick the ball too far you could so easily make someone snot themselves on it question could you could you actually do it do a double one could you actually be uh the fir like the fast person ever run the marathon while carrying a rugby ball because obviously i don't know if i've ever heard that before i haven't heard that one myself but i guarantee that there is someone that has done that and there's a record of it because i'm sure if there's one kicking a ball there's someone holding a ball yeah yeah you're going to pull for something there anyway well the one that i chose to select was that because one it's difficult it's very difficult but it's also just about achievable i think i hope is um the video game character one because it was like the thing that i started my youtube channel based on was video games and i'm still doing video game stuff on it but i thought all right well that's that's perfect so it's something that is already connected to um what you are doing and then also it is like the one there's one that i'll i'll probably get it just because i could but the the one where it's a person who's run the marathon as a patient someone did that and um they're just dressed as a patient they don't actually have to be a patient i mean i don't think so i would definitely i would 100 percent do it with my ass out absolutely but i don't think this guy did and uh his one is three hours 45 minutes and my best one was three hours 30 so i could i could wear the um the hospital down and snag that one so then i thought that would have been too easy to get one that i've already kind of passed that time and so that the the video get the video game one is less than three hours which is hard like doing a sub three hour marathon is it's it's not running a four minute mile but it's like running a four four thirty like it is it's very difficult to do it's a mark of achievement what kind of character would you are you thinking of dressing up i haven't finalized that yet because what the the biggest problem with that is wearing any sort of a costume especially when you have to run a fast marathon is going to deeply affect how well you can run it so what i was going to do is um try to find a character that i could do that's not going to hold me back too much it's not gonna be too much of a hindrance and then whoever is on my uh my channel give it up to them and say all right you vote and the way you vote is with donations so who whatever video game character earns the most amount of money that's the character i'll be but leave it open to the um uh to the people who follow the sort of the the goal or the journey and like that's another way that i'm going to try and earn the money the whole way through is just let people and make choices on what i'm doing with like let their money be their vote i was also thinking of auctioning off like a part of my skin and being like all right that you get to tattoo whatever's there if you've if you've put the money in yeah i saw you you said that and i was just like that's that loops that that is pretty nice that's pretty cool but um is there is have you got like a specific website or do you want people like that or where you want people to go directly to get in contact with you i'm like okay i can link it just in the boil so people know where to look yeah originally i had all these uh like creative ways or like created worded ways of like i'll think maybe i'll use that for a channel so i had like a cancer not cancer and fighting cancer with cancer and all these sort of silly things and then the first time i did a podcast it was like oh my god how are you gonna tell the lads like these seven different things that you've come up with one for your twitter one for your thing one for your facebook and so then i got my own website um and that's just a cure cancer or die trying dot com and in that is like the the funnel to all the other things so you can go straight to the just giving page if all you want to do is uh give money and then booger off you can see the youtube channel you can see the facebook thing twitter all the work's there and there's the email there if you want to do something that's a bit more like uh if you would like me on your own podcast or if you want to give sponsorship or something that's a bit more sort of i haven't found out the better word for it but something that's a bit more business related all right i'm gonna make sure right you have to make sure you send me on that that um the website i'll put it in the bio and then you also make sure you comment on this video and then of course i'll pin your comment to the top so people know it directly to go into your youtube channel as well yeah it will do man oh also uh in on your own instagram we'll show you how to do it afterwards you need to like go into your edit profile and put in that website as in the website bracket instead of in your bio part how it's actually clickable because it's not clickable on your instagram yeah my instagram is not really i haven't tried to use that as any sort of a thing to connect the others my instagram is basically just for all my mates it's just yeah but you need every little bit of help you can get so you need to start getting on the ground too yeah i probably thought of that the same thing but like i was even gonna start a tick tock account and uh basically just make a piss take of all other tick tock accounts but uh i haven't quite got around to that and i read it was another one that i've uh i've literally got like a list of things that i need to start doing on social media but i actually don't like using social media that much from the start so i was like oh god i'm going to get so distracted so often i'm never going to get anything done you're going to have to get used to lighting up i know are you able to donate or you have to donate now on on that website you have now oh yeah yeah yeah so all the links are in there for the um uh the just giving just giving is the direct one because um that you just click on the just giving ones and straight away it goes to the the charity things all the other things do link to the just giving like all of the the youtube videos that i make if you look to the description you can always click onto the the direct promotions even if the videos are completely unrelated to anything to do with uh the charitable cause because like i still just release things that are just i think they're funny so i'll just like i got a dog recently so like i think i put up a video where it's just my dog fighting with my mom's dog there's nothing to do with like you know yeah remember uh cancer research blah blah blah i just recorded these two dogs fighting and put that up but then had the link written in there completely unrelated so all of them i'm hoping i have some form of uh filter to go back to the um the main goal of it all all right i'll make sure to donate this week anyway 100 percent i know russell because he's absolutely scared he owes you this uc glove for ages right and then i'm after winning there on the weekend he still hasn't centered he's just yeah i mean you know what you know you're a man who's into your fitness right barry doesn't show up to the gym sessions and uh yeah i was meant to pray for jim sessions um he missed four even row so like i just don't know i actually i actually thought you were tired to be honest i'm tough get your uh call up your brother and get him to be like a free personal training session you're mad i thought i wouldn't give you anything for free yeah it keeps everything trapped all right so like um like first of all ian thanks mill for coming on um is there is there anything else we should go over as well like to look out for because like i'm definitely going to be following this this is a it's not every day like myself and ross just started doing this for the crack and then all of a sudden we've had like such unbelievable guests on and then like i don't think i don't think his story has been as deep as this ross what do you think no i think ian's story is i don't even always to describe it it's like slowly outlandish but also like it's really cool that it's he's taking something that like has destroyed people's lives turned into a positive thing and trying to do something for others and you have such a positive outlook on life it's actually made me look more positive on my life i was like geez the amount of stuff all you complain about that is like absolute uh you know what i mean and then i was like some people actually have a hard ross so like just pull up your socks on there keep up uh keep on playing forwards you know i mean so uh you know thanks mindy for coming on to uh share your story man thank you very much for having me on the first place yeah you know i was looking up at when's the london marathon to be on in 2022. april it's always on in around april time so um big big part of the reason i really want to try and get this the first time is because i do bjj myself and after this i can't risk breaking it like you know having a knee hurt or anything like that so i can't wait to get back to like you know getting into the uh sparring with the lads so that's that's probably one of the biggest motivations that i have at the moment where it's like because i don't actually like running these days i used to like it way back in the day but i kind of got sick of it but it's like it's the best way to earn money for uh for charity so i was like ah come on you gotta get back into it now that's only because everyone knows how hard it is like no one only weird i was actually enjoyable once you get fit enough you do actually start to enjoy it because you you're running at a good clip and then the rest of your body isn't hard and so if you listen to music that really like sort of gets to listen to a bit of chemical brothers and like gets the beats going and then it's like ah yes you start getting the endorphins as you're running and so it becomes less of a chore but it takes a long time to to get up to that point i'm never reached that point i've never reached that point i don't know if i ever will i used to do a long distance running myself i might actually like do this in 2022. if you're going sure you'll probably be in london anyway uh russ won't be a logo he's not into it anymore but uh you can do we'll do it backwards ross yeah yeah exactly what's the record for that like it's actually probably very impressive you know like three hours 20 minutes or something i'd say it's freakishly high because like someone has definitely thought of doing that yeah whatever yeah there's there's loads of them that i've that i've come up with that i want other people like i want people who want to uh join in just for the crack and they're like one that i wanted to do was a do a doctor-patient one where someone it's like a tandem team one of them is in a uh a wheelchair and the other one is behind them and they're both well one of them is dressed with like the doctor jacket like the medical medical jacket thing on and then the other person is dressed like a patient and so one person is pushing the wheelchair while the other person is uh sitting in it and then the only rule is that when you switch you can switch anytime you want but when you switch you've got to change clothes so only a doctor is allowed push so at that point it's like if you're running a marathon you like sitting in the chair might actually be a bad thing because it'll make you seize you'd have to agree with the changeover was like that's the only change over the day yeah it might like that might be what it is like they're training like training for a half marathon whether you're training for a half marathon one person is in the seat and one president the first person would want to do more than half because like i'm sure if you're sitting down in a wheelchair for two hours when the first person goes like the first part getting up and then being like right now you wrong just like hand me legs or banjax yeah they really wore jesus would you tell them to hurry up or slow down because you know your time is coming like you know it's like mate you can do one more mile back there you have more left in their legs you lads are already thinking about the tactics for what you need to do it so that's why i know you're messing great we've done it we've done one before it's just like we don't get in contact people don't get in contact with us to do it so like when an opportunity when we do them before we don't charge you and we didn't run the marathon no not marathon i'm just talking about like doing stuff for charity in general yeah that's what i mean but uh yeah here look i'm definitely gonna be watching this space because uh i might have to get the run shoes on but uh uh ian like here let us know where people can find you please uh well yeah the best one is definitely if you go on a cure cancer or diet trying dot com and then that is the connection to uh all the other things the things where you'd find the the most are um my the facebook involves like a daily diary which someone advised me to do uh it's definitely very amateur because i haven't got it properly organized at all i keep getting info from her being like you know no you need to like plan what you're about to say beforehand stop just going on and be like i don't know what i'm going to talk about today so hopefully that improves uh with experience and then the youtube thing is um it's basically an excuse for me to uh write sketches and make jokes and play video games but then every so often it will also be me um at about equal ratios it's then involved with me doing the exercise and again you can find that all on the the cure cancer or diet trying website but um each those are the two big things that involve the most involvement from me perfect well guys if you've enjoyed this video i'm sure you have uh spaghetti and thanks man for come on just make sure to like share subscribe and as always stay energized