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Arnaud Dos Santos Interview, Fansview
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[Music] thank you okay so I'm here with Arnold dos Santos he's going to be back after a four and a half year layoff um he's gonna be fighting this weekend he's gonna be fighting wild fight promotions I believe it's motion um because you've been out for so long what has brought…
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[Music] thank you okay so I'm here with Arnold dos Santos he's going to be back after a four and a half year layoff um he's gonna be fighting this weekend he's gonna be fighting wild fight promotions I believe it's motion um because you've been out for so long what has brought you back to fight after four and a half years you've a successful gym if you're a father and you also have started up a successful promotion so you have a lot on your plate what brought you back to fighting well what what took me out of settings first I'll answer well technique was uh four uh four and a half years ago in my last debate I broke my nose and uh well I got my notebook um and it never healed properly for credibly while and my wife was pregnant at the time with my son Nazareth um by the time and we were moving house as well so it was so much on the land where and we were opening our favorite so there was so much going on that um I never got back in due to the news break and then moving house wife pregnant again and then cool with it and then that's that's how that sort of put me on a on a big brick um and then I was training last year and around the same time as when Andy was due to compete on cage Warriors against Scott Malone uh I was trained alongside Ali and that's when I was sort of trying to get myself built up as well to get ready to compete again and I was shorter in my head so I'm constantly like I'm going to trim around me in case there was a couple of flavors I think it was like two two flavors maybe on on the on the card and the EPM one and another one I think on the K2 and I was like I'll just keep trying to kiss something happens and then like uh coach Rodney would say you know like yeah if you're always ready to go then you never know what opportunities come up um to Australia Long Island I'm the unfortunate himself injured um the Fate was offered to me uh I was going to take it but then in my head my first thought was like I can't get hurt because zombie was right you know he was an inserted he was like three weeks so as soon as I had that thought and I spoke to Reese Mickey about it you know because he was one of the persons I rank show away because race said to me also like I think you can get a shake at this fight in the block and then I was like happy days I'm I'll take up and then as soon as I come off the phone around the back anyway because his first thought process was like I can't get hurt I have a responsibility to the students you know uh so angry we're going on our second promotion all the time as well I was coming up and all the guys were fighting on it I was like but the two of us can't be out you know and they're too so that went wrong very quickly Ben yes SSE to oh no Camp so and then I kept training and then unfortunately my dad passed away in October and that sort of through Abraham off Jordan and uh I wanted to get back on the training but when you when you don't have a date you don't have anything in plan you just sort of make excuses and you tell yourself I'm sure I'll do that next time I'll do that next time or I'll just do one round I don't need to keep doing more rounds you know you're procrastinate so that's what I shorted did from October until May and then after the event I thought Road around a good event I'll be a bit selfish here you know I got that sort of fire in my belly um I was like I wanna sort of get a fate and then I'll sort of manifest at this because then George from wildfired promotions acids uh to see if we had any guys interested for his show you know any Fighters and then I spotted proof like it and I just said here's my record who's this you know I'm Keen if they're happy to take this fight that's Jack young and you know they replied you know like I think it was like a week later I replied and said you know yeah they'll take a fight so that's why I'll tell you that found out that's that's it long so obviously Cove would change it for a lot of people and also sorry about uh Department in your family um and there's a lot going on there there's a lot of motion there's a lot of up and downs obviously with the person and then it's when you were off for that fight like and you head out in Europe here you wanted to fight and then you realize there's responsibility um like what were your emotions then like because you were like obviously you want to be a bit selfish but then you came back down to earth and realized no I have a responsibility to these students what was it like going through that were you thinking like will I just take it like might not get hurt like like up and down so quickly I must have been learning it was like a half an hour back and forth conversation you know my wife was pushing me to take it I take it you know like SSC Arena kids Warriors you know nothing to lose take it on sort of short notice Gwen and I was like yeah yeah you know like there's all that stuff but then I was like what about if this happens you know what happens if this happens that's like every you know I repaying the bills what about The Shins you know that it was just a chain of like all these responsibilities and then aren't they on these right so I was like aren't they after you I have to pick up the shorter that because I only had a baby on the way he just bills to pay you know luckily enough we have that you know like if if he's injured or if I'm away you know the two of us that are support each other but you know it wasn't just one family you know I was sort of handling about after man it was like on these reserves well until he was back on my speed obviously and they've done quite a good day social media said stuff but like for actually being in the gym teaching you know yeah I could take this happy days you know a fancy outside uh not on the loose and then it was back my head I was like what if and he can't go into effect you know and and then the sport you just can't win with any self-doke or any sort of cautiousness he can't I I don't I don't think so you know it's different if you've got like a wee and Drake and you sort of play around not and you sort of change your game plan but as if you're thinking about what happens if the day after the fight I can't show up for work you know because campaign is not my way of making a living you know I from day one when I got into may it was probably and it still is obviously you know I make 11 from the coach but um and run the promotion but it was it's not it's not a sport where you're going to be making 11 until you get the big shows you know yeah and like you said if you go in like that with any hesitation or or saved out that could lead like it is a sport where there's serious consequences potentially uh usually most competitors come out fine but if you go in you I don't think you're gonna give the best account to yourself you're always going to have that little bit in your mind and and I think the mental side because obviously you looked at that and said okay well that's going to play on me and I think the mental side and I speak about this a lot recently because I I kind of I've dragged it out people talk to them do you think the mental side of fighting is overlooked in this sport but it's starting to get looked at more now but do you think this is a bigger portion that people actually want to admit I think oh yeah I think so like I I I I always speak to students the bird said it's been an equal thing and it's a providing thing it's like you know like I I have very open the streams where like I'll tell them you know it is 100 psychological you know at the end of the day you are pretty yourself yo for the man that you're going on half naked small dogs in front of a whole crate gum shield and cup that's it and you're you know you're going at it in front of a crowd you know you're always going to get people that are going to have opinions after that belittle you you know if the the outcome doesn't come your way and even when you get the win you're still going to get some people are going to get you stink about it like you know I could on this but or like you know just you'd always get people complaining or you're trying to bring you down and I think also it's like you 've proven yourself can I do this you know like that honestly the hardest bet in my opinion is being able to walk into the kids and being present because you know I've said those students that happen to make Daphne in my life where it almost felt like I had an outer body experience because my body was there but my brain wasn't and in that fight was surely muscle memory I can remember thinking enough like you know from the very first response I felt the lather I was like I have absolutely no adrenaline and I said myself survived the first and ronniel just you know excuse my language he said you know stop the picture to me and be like right that's cool boy you got a good one okay you know where it was like I knew I was just totally flat and my body was just going off the muscle memory you know in the fight I wasn't reacting down I hadn't he was doing I was like wanting my body to do stuff my body was doing it wasn't even a drowned on because I didn't have any adren as I said I thought a later time then when I was supposedly not the fair was not the fake first proof fight went a bumped the main event my body was asleep and I never experienced that before I think Michael Bisping spoke about you know he trained at the time and when he fought under a Silva you know in London I think they fall at 3am in the morning I think it was you know something I got something stupid like in America I would say yeah no I think it was like you know any foreign that's the first time I experienced that for shorter flat and then in my head I remember coming out outside like feeling like terrible thinking oh I don't want to do a sport anymore that's around us he you know what he done to me I usually do to people I didn't like being on that side of it you know but that's all the negativity straight away after the fact you just think of negatives but then positives you know so many positive to take of like during the camp how much I improved it's the frustration of not being able to show your best self you know yes we have a sound here where we went and we learned exactly if you ask most Fighters as long as they perform they come if they're beaten by a man or a better woman on the day as soon as they perform they're satisfied yeah no I talk to a lot of Fighters and that's what they say especially when they get knocked out early or fight finished early they said I wish I got the show like I said if not if I don't win if I just get to show what I've done but with that your body being asleep how long notice did you get that you're actually gonna be fighting at the later time I literally showed up on uh on the way and there was the day before so we'll show up on the Friday to weigh-in and then the guy picked us up he was like oh uh let me around you've just been pumped up so like the day before wow so obviously you would lead not to a fight I've talked to Fighters and I don't have the same with Chef they like to familiarize themselves with things they do like in a fight simulation like that the times the people they have around them so is that would have done and you wouldn't I don't want to say rather but you were going in and it was kind of on the spot how did you react during the day like I said did you get amped up earlier when you were maybe supposed to fight and like I said there was no adrenaline or did you feel flat all day like as I said I take a lot away from it you know I learned a lot from the experience I don't know if it was you know parsley my fault not being more Bossier they're like no I'm not doing this you know like I was in the vanity from three o'clock uh for Medicals blah blah and then the promoter wanted me to hang around with their face off for a bit I think it was like seven or like half six or seven something like that in the kids like an old school parade sort of Face Off so because we weren't paying for taxis you know back and forth to the event they were walking um hung around in the venue like and I had another teammate who's fake when he was on earlier on the car too I was in the venue from sort of three in the afternoon I didn't fight for like after 11 o'clock and on top of them like near 12 I I from what I can remember um I tried to go to sleep you know but I was in that room in the environment team these guys warming up I was feeding off the energy of the gay straight you know like it just came back and they've won or they came back and they got bit you know and I'm feeding off all these other amateurs and faders coming in and out you know went there to sort of watch the show and you're sort of hanging around I think that's agreeing to me as well you know um so when I went for me to to quit I I just felt like my body was definitely asleep because I I was in bed the whole time during that camp 10 half 10 at the latest that was meant to be fake notes around he had half Vietnam yes which I would have been training naturally up in the accident and around those times anyway so my body was used to exercise and then stranded that thing but can't it came 10 o'clock I mean I was wrong and I I tried to go first state and then I remember warmed up and then I think something happened and then the show got delayed it was just this on set like I'm not taking my hand away from Tom on the day you know he put me land first he was very good but I didn't show my best self because it wasn't you know I knew I was not so yeah I was learning and do you feel because of the way that ended and you've like everything happened in the meantime do you think not that you want to prove yourself but or maybe it is that you want to produce do you want to come and show your best self now are you planning on continuing fighting a bit more after this fight or are you just going to take this fight and see how it goes well it definitely left a bad taste in my mouth and I get really laughed about testing my mouth and um I I don't want to finish things on that you know I I just don't think it would be fair on the amount of work I've done on sport what I'm doing currently on this sport but the Hops were that bad case it wasn't about the win or losing as I said yeah it's it's I want to go in and perform um I've wanted to go back and fight for the last four years um and then obviously my progress I want to see my progression and I want to see sort of my Improvement I want to see can I do it again you know in a life situation and combat where it's not instructed nothing short of controlled how do I go with people can I still zone out people's voices and just listen out on my coaches voices you know can I still do all these things and also it's for me to be able to bring information back to the students also but yeah I'm taking this back um and then we'll see where it goes from there I never like to look past I just like that be in that moment you know and then you look too far in the future yes you can sort of Empower yourself for things in the future if you're looking in the past you only want to look in the past as a learning thing you don't want to look at the negative things you just want to take out you know things that you can learn and improve from but you just need to be present because at the end of the day every day we wake up every day we can only be on this day you know don't pay tomorrow can't be yesterday so just beyond the day yeah and especially with the students that you have now you you said you open hybrid at that time coming to the to end the last fight and over covered um you obviously can pass on experience and do you think the experience you're going to get here like like I said it's to kind of prove yourself as well but it'll be valuable experience to bring back to people like because some people might go in and out of fighting and this experience will then be able to help them and you've you've you will experience it again but like that I'm excited to see you back in and it's like that it's a long time and like everything you've done over the past while like I was that fit to fight which was a fantastic show I really really enjoyed it I went to chaos today before and I went to that what I loved about was that the novice the nervous energy the who's gonna go first it was really really exciting and something I found interesting obviously the guy who fought Jamie maclease fought for the FlyAway title you actually bet him for the FlyAway title on Clan Wars just before you turn pro yeah yeah that was my that was my first pay for Next Generation and screwed up that fight Romy just said hi boy you're going broke I was literally like literally back in the teens like top boy you're going through last time and uh that's how it worked out yeah so yeah I thought Jimmy you know that was well I think you know that was one of my best performances uh adaptedly as as an amateur but um again something else from this fight this is the longest I've ever trimmed for a fight because most of all my fights from I got in the sport have all been like like short turnaround like like two three weeks because I was training training and then some came up and I was like okay it was less than three weeks and like um I that's located in my album with my second professional fight with the three Arena um like within I think it was like 30 40 seconds oh from my current professional I've just got injuries after injury so that's why I knew my record is so low but I compared as an amateur you know um when I was an amateur I would try to push five or four fights out a year and that was the plan but I just got like I went the next 10 and I already had that one on my track great great Camp I really developed progress I learned so much like there were so many monsters back then in the gym you know um and young other Commerce like race um and Mark Andrews at the same and then ended up Andrew and mac oh pretty badly Before Christmas right not to make my prude debut in February Obama and me and Andrew maggot that put me out like near the summertime uh and then because I was there for so long run they said there's an opportunity to fight in the imf's in Vegas I was like and I was like yeah well I'll transfer that I'll uh we'll have a go with that and then I was training and it was like a week's notice Obama against it was meant to be a debug we were told the Reds he was dead you gave an end up being Jimmy but I was irrelevant they were like I'm not making any money from Miss Harvey yeah I don't have the money to pay to go to their Maps I was I don't know how the heck I was getting known it was like 1200 pound I was only earning like seven pounds 750 an hour back in the day and uh I remember going myself and I just had a house and I was like I need to start earning money from this hobby or else the way it's not going to be happy about that sure um I ended up taking the fight on which notice and that time I approved everywhere but the promise was if I took that state that they were meant to get me on in the three Arena later on and goes like September and they never did and I ended up taking the fight against yeah keeper Crosby keeper Crosby I didn't want to get his name on Kiefer Crosby and he was there a week and a half's notice his his guy pulled out and again I took that and then ended up special kid Malibu and then the surgery and I was almost like for two years with that one so when you turn pro you didn't have the best to look obviously um we're injuries and and you see that with Fighters a lot that they turn pro or the the high answers and and they're out they're out throughout just like one or two that I've seen that when I started this you could see them like they're gonna be good and they've been out since and you're just like imagine how frustrating was that because you'd had that amateur career to start getting these injuries when you went pro I was like it was just stupid because the momentum I felt I had from that Faith uh with Jimmy you know I actually like completely different I don't know like I mean my wrestling and striking just went up the north level come back you know and I was just like yeah yeah as soon as Rodney said it I was like you should you know originally I was like sure and then I was like yeah let's go you know I was like yeah I was like because I felt like Abraham was right I was like I'm just gonna go back to the gym you know there was rather you know Alan fell apart and Hyundai and and Norman you know uh who else was there at the time it was professional I'm sure I'm asking a couple names but and they you know I was training with the management and um in my head I was like i i i Dominique Hank I was looking at a professional scene in the ring at the time there was not many flavors that I think and you can earn at the time for whatever proof um and I was like yeah I definitely I could I could definitely GoPro and it was just going to add in more what happens to the Arsenal for in the professional but um and just kill the momentum not injury definitely killed kill them around them but um my head I was like I'll come back I'll I'll recover quick I guess it was because originally when I went and seen doctors about it they were like uh you're not gonna be able to fight again you're not gonna be able to fight I haven't seen like your Ranger movement the album was gonna be like have your surgery it's gonna be like this right so like if you think about like you'll never be able to straighten your arm back out a couple of sergeant said no and then I found us my mom worked out there and they also in the Panic clinic and she a few friends and one Mr doctor want to say doctor I'm terrible I'm terrible with names honestly um when seeing him he was like yeah I'll be able to be able to operate he said the same thing he's like I don't know if you'll be able to get full range of movements and like full extension he's like you'll probably be able to get the boat very soon you know and I was like and what's the reason for me not being able to he's like well build up cartilage and just he says depends on how much pain tolerance you take and I remember as soon as I was able to start remember just go on and just straight in the arm and then within like three weeks I was able to fully extend the arm s it was that it was it was just in my mind I was like you're telling me I can't do this I was like I need to do this just to screw you know it was like mind over body type thing it was like in rehabbed you rehabbed yourself back to fighting Shake which that's being said a lot of it is mental I think like so many things like our bodies are like I always say is you know our bodies are temples you know they're gifs if you look up them properly and they do wonderful things especially if you train them to boost them like they can they can push really far it's just how much you want to go in ahead you know um so you just gotta you should but the big thing about may may prove debut this is why I've got the guys traveling already you know being so young and I prove that it was my very first fight that I traveled abroad tried to experience weird cut abroad I'd never done that before and when we arrived we were like taking our head or it's gonna be a box that's gonna be a sauna it's gonna be a bath gonna be a song none of that treadmill Ronnie's like Barbies Jumping Jack boy let's get this done me I'm taking all around Birmingham you know I don't have to lose the whip which was horrendous yeah no like that and obviously Mel went over recently um yeah had the guys go over for clay as well um it is good because like that there's so many different parts to fight in like just fight week like Fighters can go and you can do winter clubs you turn up and fight but just fight week just fight day trying to manage your time then experience going away and all these things are new to it and you don't want it to be new to your going pro which it was for you because then it's like I've never experienced this before what are the do's and don'ts and at that time obviously the scene was starting to get bigger and bigger but a lot of people might not have experienced that um and I don't think the scene was as close together as it is now at the minute well not like with with the amount of shoes where they're willing to bring pictures where you know again some of the children more further on in their stage where they have some of the funds to be able to like pay to bring some of the amateurs you know because obviously uh some some of the promotions are playing for flights it costs you no worries it's like the Jujitsu guys like Jiu Jitsu is is the only sport I know like you have to pay so much money to compete you know that's why I think what chaos is doing is obviously fantastic you know getting the platform like after the guys to complete for free you know uh it's fast with what what Jason and they are doing you know with the digitsu side of things over but yeah if you don't experience traveling before you turn pro you're going to experience a lot of obstacles that you've never experienced before you know because it's very easy for you to get comfortable and develop this routine over here and like have this week comfort blanket and you have everyone that you sort of need and your your facilities that you're able to use you know for your records your rehydration your nutrition you know all these things that are on harm as soon as you travel abroad it's not there anymore yes like where do I get sauna where do I get this and I'll see you or next time to look ahead where's the nearest salon around here where's whatever it is that you need well that's why a lot of people know even you looking up those they have the portable Sonos like we traveled around these uh his first world title Ukraine and expect the boss you know people have you know they either do it's whatever you sort of prefers whatever your body sort of reacts best with you know so like personally myself I I I I I I'm better with the bar and my body definitely released a lot more water with the bar um and when we arrived in Ukraine Shores no Bots right origin jacuzzi because we brought the Epsom salts and around us jacuzzi this is a funny story and Gandhi you know he's kind of weird um and I went to look for the salts to be like we're all there and he had his heart and I looked over the jacuzzi and he just dumped them straight in he's like no I was like what did he dealt for he's like I stumbled and the jacuzzi is like and the thing's cold as they just kind of felt their system I guess just gonna filter the time at that time it's warm you know I was like so it never heated up and the time was going down so we ended up having to do a sauna and I remember doing it with him so that I remember losing like near 3 Kg in the sauna with them and you couldn't you can't drink the top order over there yeah the water was so expensive and I went to the shop to buy water for for that that was probably on the smartest I've ever talked to him like I was doubt me as hard as we had cut because he at the time he got comfortable doing path and we got a song and I wasn't there anymore um and uh the war was so dear like I went to buy some water and then the locals where I realized I wasn't from there and they were like it said like whatever it was they were like yeah other than extra 10 on top and it worked but like the word was 12 quid is it what 12th kid for Paul is like I'll slept on it you're only getting one bottle you know uh and I remember lots of China really do the drink water so yes without that you know it's all those types of things you know that they come in the play so it's great that Alexa mail you know I said they're she experienced that out of Body Experience like I was talking about in her last fight where she she just froze you know and wasn't there she just didn't get going and I said but like you've experienced that in many years ago how much your face you're way ahead of me and I don't I only got that in my crew you know and and well that experience in my last Buffet I was like so you're way ahead of me and then Alexa reverse count and Tyler who were away there as well they're way ahead of myself as well when I was in Omnitrix I never traveled so um it's great that they're getting their system because it's irrelevant you know whether they got picked up losses or what they've learned from it huge yeah it's invaluable what they've learned from those experience going forward and like I said there's so many shows that like ukfce Goliath they're all very easy every English show usually has about three to four to five maybe Irish Fighters they usually bring them from the same kind of gym like yours or high but they might bring Rhino quite a few masses they aren't really like from I think it was from male well so I don't know if they're contacting ukfc like or looking at cars like where are they getting their feathers from which I would do that about if there was that's what I would do I just could be like where are they getting from like I'm always keeping asking where females are coming from so like making a note you know because obviously females are hard to find with quite a few now and the item which is great but you're always keeping an eye for specific weights for our own guys but they must be doing that and we've been getting like quite a few shows from England contacting us so if we don't have anyone I just passed on down any of the clubs that sort of support us but like here's an opportunity if you have any guys here give them a shout you know so yeah it is good like I said with Social Media stuff like that it's so easily shared it's so easy to find maybe like Replacements and stuff like that but we're going to get back to you um this weekend obviously um how are you feeling like how's the camp gone it comes around uh very well you know very very well I'm actually surprised at how well it went I feel very fed very strong fast you know there are all the cliches but yeah I um I ended up having the sort of do a bit more private shorter on a long train just to shoot it around my lifestyle with my son and then because my wife started a new job um and I have to have I would have my son Mona as well because my wife's new job um for an hour or two here it was like get some training and then so I've been doing some of my private training with uh Brown Morgan a boxing coach uh he's been fantastic Andy this train he trained when he was um when he picked up his world titles and I ended up training with brown I jumped in there a couple sessions around I reached out them we've been trying to reach out to them anyway from we've opened the gym to get them in but I shared them like a brand attitude you know I'll come down to you but he's been fantastic uh have my last session with him tomorrow night and you'll just be simple things that he's tweaked that you know in my head I always tell myself I was doing certain things and he just knew like simplified it and uh you know explained it better to me for me to understand it and I've been obviously being able to implement my coaching so I I love nothing more being coached like I ego wise you you tell me I'm doing something wrong I can take constructive criticism all day long and I love it you're saying when the guys um they're sure I'm like get me constructive person because it's going to be something but with myself so streamer brand I've been going uh Muay Thai with a Jimmy Crawford getting some random but those monsters and not them so it's like there's a guy and I only have just so many versions of them and TMA that's ridiculous like the so many bodies are so uh Jimmy reached at me once I announced the fake and he said look I have bodies and around the way for you to come down and get rounds which was great I was like happy days I'm gonna go down and do that and then I brought some of my guys down as well just to get them out of their comfort zone you know is fantastic uh and then I been I was also going to Donner's sort of private Boxing class every Thursday which has been fantastic because it's the lecture of race McKee and Paul queues is all in the class her and I feel like I'm messing the answer the camera again loads of the fa I want to say oh loads of kids worry guys like all Elite athletes and I just wanted to put myself back in that environment all like Alpha is just animals and I want their feet off that energy and just watch them all work and then just see if I can still keep up also so that and then been going up the uh Fai lame and pop uh open the doors up and says look you're more than welcome to come up and get rounds in here as well uh and that's been fantastic so I've been sort of going up every second week um to get rounds and up bar um because they have some monsters that play with oh my goodness they have some monsters Joe bombs um Karen Coogan Damian mcguigan yeah I mean really are absolute monsters I see Karen Kruger and gaming mcquagan for their age only are we weapon sex we weapons I mean shocking like that that is the next generation and then Joe Burns for only being in game for I think it's been four years I think he's only in the game but four years his his and and knowledge he's he's one to keep an eye for like I'm really really excited to see those three guys progress in the sport but they've been fantastic no egos command and they've just been fantastic gave me work I wanted to get beat up you know I think Ryan Curtises are also you know he's fantastic as well gentleman well you know hardly understand what's going on and I have to really respect you I got around last week I said them I was like what time did you leave up they get up to the class last Thursday and he said half three you know Alex you have to disrespect that I'm sure many of the students there that traveled from too far just to come in you know it's Pat's wrestling class I'm talking about there but the train in the environment and it's also with the bodies it all push each other so well if they have anything special and I say hi you know and I experienced it they all push each other and Liam and Pat you know just leading the ship that's really really good really good no it sounds like you've had a good time um I can't actually wait for your fight this weekend to see how we get on I'm Gonna Let You Go as well um is there anything you want to say before you go already yeah uh 100 I want to go quick shout out to sponsors body fuel Belfast uh Kim on board and sponsor me from someone so father thank God very much as seen children songs uh building Merchants they were with me before and they jumped back on uh princeu two brothers um Stephen and Chris being with me from day one uh hair agency uh Stephen on us on board as well always supporting me and then obviously hybrid crew and then next generation of belonging and then obviously all the guys that have helped me out for this camp perfect I want to wish you the best skill and I will talk to you soon just one second